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Best versions of all "new" songs? * * UPDATE 3

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 06:13
by Yggdrasil
I'm going to make the ultimate collection of (relatively) recent unreleased SoM material - strictly from the “no physical releases� period.

What are your suggestions for the best possible sources, sound- and performance-wise for the ultimate compilation of all "new" SoM songs, including covers?

The final result/product will be shared with all.

(Please note that I haven't included (We Are The Same) Susanne in the list because it was an official release. Unless it’s controversial, I will include it in the final compilation, sourced from the official 256 kbps mp3).

Please suggest your favorite versions/sources as comments to this post!


- - - U P D A T E v 3 - - -


Originals
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Come Together
War On Drugs
Summer
Romeo Down
Will I Dream
Crash And Burn
Snub Nose (Top Nite Out)
I Have Slept With All The Girls In Berlin
Still
Arms


Covers
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Capricorn/I Didn't Know I Loved You ('Til I Saw You Rock'N'Roll)
Comfortably Numb / Some Kind Of Stranger
Confide In Me
Gift That Shines
He's Got The Whole World In His Hands
John I’m Only Dancing
Pipeline
Silver Machine
Sugar Baby Love/I Wanna Be Sedated
Stop Draggin` My Heart Around
Uptown Top Ranking
Misirlou
Bei Mir Bist Du Schön

“Super medley� from the Super-Crash Festival, Rendsburg:
Sister Ray / Louie Louie / (I’m Not Your) Stepping Stone / Walkin' The Dog / Lucretia, My Reflection / Killed By Death / Gypsies, Tramps And Thieves / Capricorn / Metropolis


Other
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Giving Ground (Sisterhood cover)
Rain From Heaven (Sisterhood cover)
*


* I’ve decided not to include any brief snippets or soundcheck strumming, which are sometimes listed as tracks on various trade lists. If they’re more substantial (say like Stairway To Heaven or He's Got The Whole World In His Hands), I’ll include them, but not otherwise. Suggestions are welcome!

Re: Best versions of all "new" songs?

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 08:58
by markfiend
Yggdrasil wrote:Capricorn/I Didn't Know I Loved You ('Til I Saw You Rock'N'Roll)
A bit off topic; I never understand why these two are always listed as a medley (and usually one track) on the 2000-ish era bootlegs, they're quite clearly two separate songs.

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 10:34
by million voices
An admirable task and one I am all in favour of

One I can't see on your list of covers "Silver Machine"

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 10:36
by million voices
PS do you intend to feed them through some kind of machinery to "tart" the sound up?

Re: Best versions of all "new" songs?

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 12:22
by Being645
markfiend wrote:
Yggdrasil wrote:Capricorn/I Didn't Know I Loved You ('Til I Saw You Rock'N'Roll)
A bit off topic; I never understand why these two are always listed as a medley (and usually one track) on the 2000-ish era bootlegs, they're quite clearly two separate songs.
Absolutely, I never even noticed there was a medley like that.

On the other hand, Comfortably Numb does always come as a medley with SKOS ...

Anyway, it's great idea and effort, Yggdrasil! ... :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: ...

I've noticed that you omit Good Things and Wide Receiver... because they are very old tracks?

As to OTHER ...
there are also Killed By Death and Metropolis ... both within the Supercrash Festival medley ... but when did they quote "Hells Bells" and "Passenger"?

Re: Best versions of all "new" songs?

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 12:26
by czuczu
Being645 wrote:
markfiend wrote:
Yggdrasil wrote:Capricorn/I Didn't Know I Loved You ('Til I Saw You Rock'N'Roll)
A bit off topic; I never understand why these two are always listed as a medley (and usually one track) on the 2000-ish era bootlegs, they're quite clearly two separate songs.
Absolutely, I never even noticed there was a medley like that.

On the other hand, Comfortably Numb does always come as a medley with SKOS ...
I've always though of them as separate tracks but they were sequenced together by the Doctor - I don't think they've ever appeared in setlist apart from each other? Same for Sugar Baby Love and Sedated.

Re: Best versions of all "new" songs?

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 14:32
by Dan
Can someone fill me in on Hells Bells and The Passenger, I've never heard of these as Sisters songs, I've not been paying attention obviously. (I'm guessing it'll turn out to be a couple of lines mumbled during a Sister Ray/Ghostrider type of thing?? And if we're going down that route you'd also have to include Cher's Gypsy's Tramps & Thieves and a load of other mumbleness I can't even identify from one particular "medley".)

Re: Best versions of all "new" songs?

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 21:32
by rien
Dan wrote:Hells Bells and The Passenger
Just name-wise, they seem like covers (AC/DC and Iggy Pop).
I'd also be interested in a compilation like that, by the way.

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 21:42
by Pista
Rain From Heaven's missing I think :wink:

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 23:13
by Yggdrasil
million voices wrote:An admirable task and one I am all in favour of

One I can't see on your list of covers "Silver Machine"
Thank you! I can't seem to edit my post unfortunately...

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 23:13
by Yggdrasil
Pista wrote:Rain From Heaven's missing I think :wink:
Right, thank you! I can't seem to edit my post unfortunately...

Re: Best versions of all "new" songs?

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 23:14
by Yggdrasil
rien wrote:
Dan wrote:Hells Bells and The Passenger
Just name-wise, they seem like covers (AC/DC and Iggy Pop).
I'd also be interested in a compilation like that, by the way.

They're both from soundchecks. I've never heard but I've seen them listed, so they must be included (just like with When Spirits Fly back in the day).

Re: Best versions of all "new" songs?

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 23:28
by Yggdrasil
Being645 wrote:On the other hand, Comfortably Numb does always come as a medley with SKOS ...


Of course, will correct that as soon as I'm able (don't know how to edit my post however, can't see the option for that).
Being645 wrote: Anyway, it's great idea and effort, Yggdrasil! ... :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: ...


Thank you! It's just something I've always wanted myself. Preferably on vinyl, but a CD-R will have to do. :-)

I hope some bootlegger copies the final result and releases a glorious vinyl boot (I'll gladly supply the design in exchange for a copy) :-D

Being645 wrote: I've noticed that you omit Good Things and Wide Receiver... because they are very old tracks?


Yes, this is strictly for the post-physical releases phase.
Being645 wrote: As to OTHER ...
there are also Killed By Death and Metropolis ... both within the Supercrash Festival medley ... but when did they quote "Hells Bells" and "Passenger"?
Hells Bells and Passenger are listed as having been recorded during soundchecks, but I've yet to hear them. I missed that they had done Killed By Death and Metropolis though, would love to hear them!

Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 23:43
by Dan
Do you have the date of the soundchecks? I tried googling but found nothing.

EDIT: Found the info here: http://www.ultimatesistersguide.org/documents/1998.htm

Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 04:54
by Yggdrasil
million voices wrote:PS do you intend to feed them through some kind of machinery to "tart" the sound up?
Yes, I will remaster all tracks.

Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 11:16
by markfiend
PS the reason you can't edit your post is that there's a time-limit on edits. We had some trouble a while ago with someone making a nuisance of themselves and then covering their tacks by editing the offending posts several hours after the fact (but before any moderator/admins had seen them)

I could do the edit, copying the post from the other thread, to keep this all in one thread if you like?

Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 18:11
by million voices
The compiler of the 9 volume "Reflections" draws heavily on Hochst and Hamburg from 2003 for the older new material and that sounds OK.
Whether it's down to Eldo having an extra Locket or the Sound Engineer forgetting to put the P.A. setting on "crap" I don't know.
Maybe the compiler was German which is why he favoured these venues but they are listenable.

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 00:26
by Yggdrasil
markfiend wrote:PS the reason you can't edit your post is that there's a time-limit on edits. We had some trouble a while ago with someone making a nuisance of themselves and then covering their tacks by editing the offending posts several hours after the fact (but before any moderator/admins had seen them)
I figured something like that had been going on, hence the time limit.
markfiend wrote: I could do the edit, copying the post from the other thread, to keep this all in one thread if you like?
That would be really helpful, please do! Much obliged.

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 00:27
by Yggdrasil
million voices wrote:The compiler of the 9 volume "Reflections" draws heavily on Hochst and Hamburg from 2003 for the older new material and that sounds OK.
Whether it's down to Eldo having an extra Locket or the Sound Engineer forgetting to put the P.A. setting on "crap" I don't know.
Maybe the compiler was German which is why he favoured these venues but they are listenable.
Thanks, I'll check it out.

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 09:47
by markfiend
Yggdrasil wrote:
markfiend wrote: I could do the edit, copying the post from the other thread, to keep this all in one thread if you like?
That would be really helpful, please do! Much obliged.
Done, and I've locked the other thread. If you need any more alterations to the top post, just say so in this thread, I'll keep my eye on it. 8)

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 13:02
by paint it black
Leeds 2003 and 05 are often acknowledged as the best quality bootlegs, no idea what tracks you'll get off them (can't remember)

other than that it comes down to generation, source and mastering - for example, there are six recordings of Leeds 2003

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 13:52
by Dan
Are there no soundboard recordings containing any of the (increasingly old) "new" songs?

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 18:57
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
This might be a good place to start :wink:
https://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic ... ight=songs

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 22:23
by Yggdrasil
markfiend wrote:
Yggdrasil wrote:
markfiend wrote: I could do the edit, copying the post from the other thread, to keep this all in one thread if you like?
That would be really helpful, please do! Much obliged.
Done, and I've locked the other thread. If you need any more alterations to the top post, just say so in this thread, I'll keep my eye on it. 8)
Thank you!

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 22:24
by Yggdrasil
paint it black wrote:Leeds 2003 and 05 are often acknowledged as the best quality bootlegs, no idea what tracks you'll get off them (can't remember)

other than that it comes down to generation, source and mastering - for example, there are six recordings of Leeds 2003
Thank you, noted!