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What do we call that 'h' thing?

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 18:20
by XidiouX
You know the one. That mellifluous and utterly bastard groovy exhalation that occurs so frequently in our favourite songs by our favourite artists. Not gonna make this too easy by giving you Eldritch or Bowie examples (of which there are numerous.) Suede instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxtIwh1Nz0k

0:21: call-h-ing
1:14 - w-h-ind

S-h-o, what do we c-h-all th-h-is?

Has science ever given a name to this phenomenon/behaviour?


XidiouX

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 18:28
by lazarus corporation
a sneaky way to take a breath midway through a long lyric?

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 18:32
by XidiouX
It's breathing out.

'Except the fan was blowing.'

Clemens - Alien 3


XidiouX

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 18:34
by emilystrange
over-aspiration.

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 18:39
by Being645
I guess it's one of those ornaments ...

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 18:48
by XidiouX
emilystrange wrote:over-aspiration.
A slight case of?

I guess it is Being645, but is there a name given to that frequently-occurring (in my music collection anyway) specific ornament?


XidiouX

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 19:36
by Being645
Well, here's a List of ornaments ... if you please to check *... :wink: ...

*I'm too busy atm to do so ...

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 19:48
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
emilystrange wrote:over-aspiration.
If untreated, it can lead to histrionic nephilimitis, which is apparently incurable.

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 20:07
by Pista
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:
emilystrange wrote:over-aspiration.
If untreated, it can lead to histrionic nephilimitis, which is apparently incurable.
Beverage/ Keyboard interface.
:lol: :notworthy: :lol: :notworthy:

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 23:22
by XidiouX
You don't want nephilimitis, trust me. Your command of the English language goes down to the toilet to the extent that you can even pronounce, let alone write dodgy lyrics using words like 'leviathan' and 'Chthululuiuuuu'...whatever.


XidiouX

Posted: 13 Jan 2015, 13:25
by stufarq
XidiouX wrote:
emilystrange wrote:over-aspiration.
A slight case of?

I guess it is Being645, but is there a name given to that frequently-occurring (in my music collection anyway) specific ornament?


XidiouX
It's not an ornament, because ornaments are additional notes that embellish the score (eg trills or glissandi). This is a speech/phonetics thing but there probably isn't a technical name for it because it would be considered an undesirable affectation and singing or phonetics teachers would discourage it.

Let's name it Buddy Holly pretentious over-aspiration syndrome. It falls into the same category as Mariah Carey note juggling disorder and The Voice contestants falsetto complex.

Posted: 13 Jan 2015, 14:49
by Pista
stufarq wrote:
Let's name it Buddy Holly pretentious over-aspiration syndrome. It falls into the same category as Mariah Carey note juggling disorder and The Voice contestants falsetto complex.
:notworthy: :lol:

Posted: 13 Jan 2015, 17:13
by XidiouX
Sounds good to me, although it would be nice to have a name for it that formed a suitable acronym.


XidiouX

Posted: 13 Jan 2015, 18:26
by Pista
Okay. How about "poasp" ( pəʊsp ) ?

Pretentious
Over
Aspiration

Eg.
The vocals were rich & well delivered, with only a hint of poasping.

Posted: 13 Jan 2015, 19:03
by XidiouX
I'd love to hear The Sisters cover Rave On or Peggy Sue.


XidiouX

Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 07:20
by Izzy HaveMercy
Andrew is just a super-goffic fragile misfit hexed with halitosis.

IZ.

Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 14:43
by stufarq
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:Andrew is just a super-goffic fragile misfit hexed with halitosis.

IZ.
Go to your room and think about what you've done.

Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 14:58
by markfiend
:lol:

Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 17:34
by rien
(I love this thread. Like so many. But this one right now. I'll see myself out.)

Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 21:13
by Izzy HaveMercy
stufarq wrote:
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:Andrew is just a super-goffic fragile misfit hexed with halitosis.

IZ.
Go to your room and think about what you've done.
But is that nagging song still playing in your head? Good! ;D

IZ.

Posted: 11 Feb 2015, 01:13
by rien
Oh, being on the topic of "what is that voice thing called", there is a particular thing that I've mostly heard blues singers do... it sounds almost like a growl/throaty trill, and is usually used to accent single phrases.
Whaddayacalldat?

Posted: 11 Feb 2015, 09:39
by Izzy HaveMercy
rien wrote:Oh, being on the topic of "what is that voice thing called", there is a particular thing that I've mostly heard blues singers do... it sounds almost like a growl/throaty trill, and is usually used to accent single phrases.
Whaddayacalldat?
Blues Grit.

IZ.

Posted: 11 Feb 2015, 21:15
by rien
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:
rien wrote:Oh, being on the topic of "what is that voice thing called", there is a particular thing that I've mostly heard blues singers do... it sounds almost like a growl/throaty trill, and is usually used to accent single phrases.
Whaddayacalldat?
Blues Grit.

IZ.
Thanks! I've googled it and I'm not entirely sure whether it's the same thing (although my google-fu might just be crap), so just to make sure:
It's what Gaga does at ca. 53 seconds in, on the word "world" (and on "I"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6EbB8Stse8

(I guess I could also have opened Audacity and do that thing myself, but then I'd have to upload it somewhere...)

Posted: 11 Feb 2015, 23:40
by Izzy HaveMercy
rien wrote:
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:
rien wrote:Oh, being on the topic of "what is that voice thing called", there is a particular thing that I've mostly heard blues singers do... it sounds almost like a growl/throaty trill, and is usually used to accent single phrases.
Whaddayacalldat?
Blues Grit.

IZ.
Thanks! I've googled it and I'm not entirely sure whether it's the same thing (although my google-fu might just be crap), so just to make sure:
It's what Gaga does at ca. 53 seconds in, on the word "world" (and on "I"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6EbB8Stse8

(I guess I could also have opened Audacity and do that thing myself, but then I'd have to upload it somewhere...)
She does a decent attempt, but no, that's no blues grit.

You want blues grit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlmRjqBt_mE
;)

IZ.

Posted: 12 Feb 2015, 00:06
by rien
Izzy HaveMercy wrote: You want blues grit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlmRjqBt_mE
;)

IZ.
Why, what a wonderful little ditty :lol: