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I'm sure everyone is familiar with the reference to Dylan's Desolation Row but it occurs to me that it may also come via a nod to The Sweet's third album Desolation Boulevard.

Thoughts?

Bang bang!

markfiend wrote:I'm sure everyone is familiar with the reference to Dylan's Desolation Row but it occurs to me that it may also come via a nod to The Sweet's third album Desolation Boulevard.

Thoughts?

Bang bang!

at the time, tony james said that somewhere, so yeah

Why did they make a video for this? (And not, say, When You Don't See Me, which was released as a single.)

stufarq wrote:Why did they make a video for this? (And not, say, When You Don't See Me, which was released as a single.)

Why did Peter Murphy make a video for "The Scarlet Thing In You" and not, say... a good song from that album?

shivarising wrote:

stufarq wrote:Why did they make a video for this? (And not, say, When You Don't See Me, which was released as a single.)

Why did Peter Murphy make a video for "The Scarlet Thing In You" and not, say... a good song from that album?

Yeah, I know, but these things have to be funded and surely you'd only do a video either for promotion or because you had a really good idea. And grainy b&w footage of Von just standing about and someone pushing a car isn't really all that inspiring, is it?

because, clearly, it was going to be a single - there is a promo CD (I have one, I'm sure lots of others do too)

I don't want to lose all credibility here but I thought of the Sweet a long way before I thought of Dylan

paint it black wrote:because, clearly, it was going to be a single - there is a promo CD (I have one, I'm sure lots of others do too)

Is there? I didn't know that. Cheers.

Remix n everything

stufarq wrote:

paint it black wrote:because, clearly, it was going to be a single - there is a promo CD (I have one, I'm sure lots of others do too)

Is there? I didn't know that. Cheers.

It's how the Major Labels in the USA did their marketing back in the 1980s-1990s, but is now rather similar to current trends of youtube airplay, digital only releases and online streaming. Basically 'Billboard' chart positions were based on MTV Video Airplay and AM/FM Radio Popularity (the need for so many Promo copies on CD/Vinyl that were pressed) and once a 'single' reached the Top 50 (or an equivalent high chart position) it was then released on physical formats for the US Public to buy. But yer Madonnas, Michael Jacksons, etc, were expected to get an immediate high chart entry anyway so they were almost immediately available for purchase.

shivarising wrote:

stufarq wrote:Why did they make a video for this? (And not, say, When You Don't See Me, which was released as a single.)

Why did Peter Murphy make a video for "The Scarlet Thing In You" and not, say... a good song from that album?

I like 'The Scarlet Thing in You'

Big Si wrote:

stufarq wrote:

paint it black wrote:because, clearly, it was going to be a single - there is a promo CD (I have one, I'm sure lots of others do too)

Is there? I didn't know that. Cheers.

It's how the Major Labels in the USA did their marketing back in the 1980s-1990s, but is now rather similar to current trends of youtube airplay, digital only releases and online streaming. Basically 'Billboard' chart positions were based on MTV Video Airplay and AM/FM Radio Popularity (the need for so many Promo copies on CD/Vinyl that were pressed) and once a 'single' reached the Top 50 (or an equivalent high chart position) it was then released on physical formats for the US Public to buy. But yer Madonnas, Michael Jacksons, etc, were expected to get an immediate high chart entry anyway so they were almost immediately available for purchase.

Based on airplay rather than sales? Didn't know that either. Seems strange (to someone so used to charts being based on sales) to think that you couldn't even buy a record until it was already in the charts, although I can see how it would benefit the record companies to work that way.

VT was clearly written with US airplay in mind. It's amazing that the only two tracks not singles somewhere were (most fans' favourite track) Ribbons and the radio-friendly Something Fast.