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anyone unhappy wwith brexit could do worse than sign this.
Petition for Second Referendum

eastmidswhizzkid wrote:anyone unhappy wwith brexit could do worse than sign this.
Petition for Second Referendum

Signed this afternoon, I'm staggered by the rate the numbers are increasing - averaging hundreds per second at present...fascinating to watch.


Flagg

You can't have an election or referendum and then say, "That's not how I wanted it to go so let's have it again". Not happy with the result of a vote? Welcome to democracy.

And anyone who wanted there to be a 60% rule should have petitioned for it before the vote, not after.

Not that it'd make much difference. We'd vote again and get the same result.

stufarq wrote:You can't have an election or referendum and then say, "That's not how I wanted it to go so let's have it again". Not happy with the result of a vote? Welcome to democracy.

And anyone who wanted there to be a 60% rule should have petitioned for it before the vote, not after.

Not that it'd make much difference. We'd vote again and get the same result.

yeah - I know that - and realise this may sound silly, but just doing it made me feel (marginally) better.

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stufarq wrote:You can't have an election or referendum and then say, "That's not how I wanted it to go so let's have it again"

It worked for Ireland.

Maybe we could have a referendum to see if we want a Second Referendum

or is that what this petition is meant to do?

The Irish (and Danish) votes were on specific treaties, which need assent from all member states to be ratified. When Ireland and Denmark voted no, the EU gave them specific assurances backed up with op-outs, enabling them to hold second votes on different terms. A second referendum for the UK would require some serious concessions from the EU.

I also reckon it's much easier to vote again on a treaty with new terms attached than it is to tell the world we're leaving the EU but then go back and say, "Um, actually..."

czuczu wrote:

stufarq wrote:You can't have an election or referendum and then say, "That's not how I wanted it to go so let's have it again"

It worked for Ireland.

Also why not?!
If politicians have the right to say "The money we're gonna save will go to the NHS" and as soon as they've won withdraw from that,
then people might well have the right to demand a new election or referendum.

Lovely to see the numbers rising by by thousands per minute. Almost 10% of the population after not even one full day ...
approaching 3,100,000 by now ... also very interesting: the map view

Good luck! ... ...

Maybe there should be a petition by the folk who want "Out" for not having a Second Referendum

and the one that gets the most signatures wins

It would be sort of like having a referendum

Also that petition was started before the vote by someone on the leave side http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/w ... 2d331e1b39

stufarq wrote:You can't have an election or referendum and then say, "That's not how I wanted it to go so let's have it again". Not happy with the result of a vote? Welcome to democracy.

apparently your leader doesnt agree: clicky.

eastmidswhizzkid wrote:

stufarq wrote:You can't have an election or referendum and then say, "That's not how I wanted it to go so let's have it again". Not happy with the result of a vote? Welcome to democracy.

apparently your leader doesnt agree: clicky.

My leader? p*ss off. And for your info, I voted Remain, I'm just pragmatic about the result.

lordofthepies wrote:Also that petition was started before the vote by someone on the leave side http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/w ... 2d331e1b39

Fair enough, although it still would have needed to be implemented before the vote.

I must admit that even that i dislike idea of Brexit and possible outcome of that step, whole concept of second referendum it's just plain stupid and naive. 72% of British allowed to vote population (over 35 mlions of people) decided. Some, if not most of them were catched on populistic slogans, untrues, half-true, overexagerretions and so, but it's a price that in democracy we have to pay.

Can't decide where to post it, but i think here's fits better.