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Von's track list for unreleased second album

Posted: 25 Jul 2016, 22:53
by Yggdrasil
I found this amazing item - Von's track list for Left On m*****n And Revenge - over at the Sisters Of Mercy Facebook 1980-1985 group:

http://imgur.com/a/NiGXC

FB group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1704379 ... =bookmarks

Enjoy!

Re: Von's track list for unreleased second album

Posted: 25 Jul 2016, 23:03
by Being645
Yggdrasil wrote:I found this amazing item - Von's track list for Left On m*****n And Revenge - over at the Sisters Of Mercy Facebook group:

http://imgur.com/a/NiGXC

FB group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/198014736992075/

Enjoy!
Oh, that looks lovely ... :eek: :eek: ... I'd have loved to hear it ... *sigh ...

Many thanks for posting it here!!! ... :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: ...

Posted: 25 Jul 2016, 23:08
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
Do you not mean Phil Verne's Facebook group ? https://www.facebook.com/groups/1704379 ... =bookmarks

Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 02:35
by Yggdrasil
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:Do you not mean Phil Verne's Facebook group ? https://www.facebook.com/groups/1704379 ... =bookmarks
I do - edited to reflect that - thanks

Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 12:58
by stufarq
Seems a bit odd. Left on m*****n and revenge was the proposed second album before the breakup, but Giving Ground and This Corrosion were both written after (and about) the breakup. And Bury Me Deep had already been released.

Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 13:34
by eastmidswhizzkid
Yggdrasil wrote:
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:Do you not mean Phil Verne's Facebook group ? https://www.facebook.com/groups/1704379 ... =bookmarks
I do - edited to reflect that - thanks
still not right. i am a member of phil's group but the link in your first post still goes to a different group.

Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 14:04
by Suleiman
Very interesting.

Torch was apparently the track that drove Adam out of the band.

Giving Ground, This Corrosion, Driven Like the Snow and Bury Me Deep we are also familiar with but maybe not in the form envisioned here.

Some very ‘Mission’ sounding titles there as well.

Any idea of where this came from or how genuine it is?

Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 16:29
by robertzombie
A fascinating image. There was a flurry of discussion about it on Phil's Facebook group (please get the link right!) I'm leaning towards it being a list of titles Andrew liked the sound of at the time. All songwriters keep such lists.

Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 17:12
by Yggdrasil
eastmidswhizzkid wrote:
Yggdrasil wrote:
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:Do you not mean Phil Verne's Facebook group ? https://www.facebook.com/groups/1704379 ... =bookmarks
I do - edited to reflect that - thanks
still not right. i am a member of phil's group but the link in your first post still goes to a different group.
Weird. I can't edit the original post anymore, any admin who wants to please feel free to correct it. Thanks!

Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 18:23
by eastmidswhizzkid
robertzombie wrote: I'm leaning towards it being a list of titles Andrew liked the sound of at the time. All songwriters keep such lists.
that's pretty much what i was thinking as well. and this list probably pre-dates the recording/release of bury me deep on the NTTC 12".

Posted: 27 Jul 2016, 07:42
by Depprocksfarfar
I know a The m*****n track from "The Children" album called "Heaven on earth". :innocent:

Posted: 27 Jul 2016, 08:16
by Pista
Yggdrasil wrote:
eastmidswhizzkid wrote:
Yggdrasil wrote: I do - edited to reflect that - thanks
still not right. i am a member of phil's group but the link in your first post still goes to a different group.
Weird. I can't edit the original post anymore, any admin who wants to please feel free to correct it. Thanks!
There's a time limit for editing.
I inserted the linky kindly provided by Nik.
Hope that works for everyone :)

Posted: 27 Jul 2016, 11:14
by mh
Depprocksfarfar wrote:I know a The m*****n track from "The Children" album called "Heaven on earth". :innocent:
I remember from either a Q magazine or Smash Hits interview back in the day that Wayne had written Heaven on Earth for his daughter, Hannah, who was born in (I guess) 1987-ish. It is of course possible that he may have taken an earlier song and repurposed it, or it may be a completely different song.

I do also subscribe to the "working titles for songs that don't even exist yet" theory, though.

Posted: 27 Jul 2016, 19:34
by stufarq
mh wrote: I remember from either a Q magazine or Smash Hits interview back in the day that Wayne had written Heaven on Earth for his daughter, Hannah, who was born in (I guess) 1987-ish.
Yes, that's right.

The titles-for-unwritten-songs theory sounds plausible. Although the inclusion of Bury Me Deep still seems odd.

Posted: 27 Jul 2016, 19:54
by eastmidswhizzkid
stufarq wrote:
mh wrote: I remember from either a Q magazine or Smash Hits interview back in the day that Wayne had written Heaven on Earth for his daughter, Hannah, who was born in (I guess) 1987-ish.
Yes, that's right.

The titles-for-unwritten-songs theory sounds plausible. Although the inclusion of Bury Me Deep still seems odd.
like i said, this list probably pre-dates the recording and release of bury me deep, which was recording during one of craig's first attempts at leaving the band.

Posted: 27 Jul 2016, 21:07
by czuczu
eastmidswhizzkid wrote:
stufarq wrote:
mh wrote: I remember from either a Q magazine or Smash Hits interview back in the day that Wayne had written Heaven on Earth for his daughter, Hannah, who was born in (I guess) 1987-ish.
Yes, that's right.

The titles-for-unwritten-songs theory sounds plausible. Although the inclusion of Bury Me Deep still seems odd.
like i said, this list probably pre-dates the recording and release of bury me deep, which was recording during one of craig's first attempts at leaving the band.
On The Wire is about the time they caught him on the fence during an earlier attempt to escape from Schloß Eldritch.

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 02:38
by eastmidswhizzkid
czuczu wrote:
eastmidswhizzkid wrote:
stufarq wrote: Yes, that's right.

The titles-for-unwritten-songs theory sounds plausible. Although the inclusion of Bury Me Deep still seems odd.
like i said, this list probably pre-dates the recording and release of bury me deep, which was recording during one of craig's first attempts at leaving the band.
On The Wire is about the time they caught him on the fence during an earlier attempt to escape from Schloß Eldritch.
hehe i didn't know that. thank-you. :notworthy:

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 17:06
by stufarq
eastmidswhizzkid wrote:
stufarq wrote:
mh wrote: I remember from either a Q magazine or Smash Hits interview back in the day that Wayne had written Heaven on Earth for his daughter, Hannah, who was born in (I guess) 1987-ish.
Yes, that's right.

The titles-for-unwritten-songs theory sounds plausible. Although the inclusion of Bury Me Deep still seems odd.
like i said, this list probably pre-dates the recording and release of bury me deep, which was recording during one of craig's first attempts at leaving the band.
Sorry, missed that bit. Yeah, that could work.

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 21:05
by Dan
stufarq wrote:
eastmidswhizzkid wrote:
stufarq wrote: Yes, that's right.

The titles-for-unwritten-songs theory sounds plausible. Although the inclusion of Bury Me Deep still seems odd.
like i said, this list probably pre-dates the recording and release of bury me deep, which was recording during one of craig's first attempts at leaving the band.
Sorry, missed that bit. Yeah, that could work.
With the inclusion of a song title called "Ritual", could that mean the list pre-dates the release of Skeletal Family's "Burning Oil" album which also includes a song called "Ritual". Once that happened and Eldritch became aware of it he would have surely retired that title as damaged goods.

Posted: 29 Jul 2016, 15:25
by stufarq
If any of Wayne's songs were included in the list, Ritual could perhaps be an early version of Sacrilege.