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Mostly I have little interest iin ancient battles but..

http://muzine.nl/interview/the-wonder-s ... he-m*****n

"before I am accused of anything else, let me just add that Craig and I spent a week in Chicago early in the year playing the songs of FALAA with Billy Corgan singing, and I f**king loved, really loved, playing those songs again, and being ‘just the guitarist’. It sounded and felt great and just as I remembered it sounding when we split up in 1985. I’ll go on record here and hold out the olive branch, and say that Craig and I would love to play these songs again, AND with Andrew Eldritch and Gary Marx. If they’re up for it, they know how to get hold of us. And if not? We may still just go ahead and do it anyway with Billy or someone else singing. They’re great songs and deserve to be heard in the way we played ‘em in 1985, as opposed to the way they’re being played by the current TSOM. I know I’ve digressed a bit here with this question, so I’ll just backtrack a little..."

Billy Corgan?
Still, first time he's said both him and Craig are up for it, isn't it?

czuczu wrote:Still, first time he's said both him and Craig are up for it, isn't it?

Think so, yeah. I definitely would have thought that of the members from that era, Craig would have been least likely.

Me too. On the other hand, I think Craig's pretty laid back and friendly, and far more likely to let things go than Wayne.

Wayne still hasn't recovered from the Sisters era? Oh boy.

Aazhyd wrote:Wayne still hasn't recovered from the Sisters era? Oh boy.

I would guess that the fact that there is a multi-page thread on here about the new m*****n single neither have the members of this forum

But would the Doktor be up for it?

Or to look at it another way it would be interesting to hear with live drums.

ruffers wrote:But would the Doktor be up for it?

Or to look at it another way it would be interesting to hear with live drums.

The m*****n are playing half their set with a drum machine nowadays so it wouldn't be odd that if they did this, they likewise do it with a drum machine.

I can imagine the response of if Wayne, Craig and another singer toured F&L&A. Playing the odd Sisters song in a solo or even m*****n set is fair enough, after all Wayne did write some, but to play the whole album under a different name. Not sure that would be cricket as they say!

abridged wrote:I can imagine the response of if Wayne, Craig and another singer toured F&L&A. Playing the odd Sisters song in a solo or even m*****n set is fair enough, after all Wayne did write some, but to play the whole album under a different name. Not sure that would be cricket as they say!

I think it would be a hoot. Legally I don't think there's any reason why they (or anyone else, for that matter) couldn't do it.

Much as I'm in the Von camp, I'd also be first to admit that sometimes he does need a good kick in the arse.

If they played a show of JUST Hussey era material it wouldn't be a very long show would it?
The album and the handful of B sides....

Yeah but they could just play the Adams era stuff and that is a tasty proposition!

Aazhyd wrote:Wayne still hasn't recovered from the Sisters era? Oh boy.

Trying to understand: it's just semtimental. He was young, albums is more than fine.
Cynically: a nice way of trying to make some extra money on past. Some old bands nowadays like to give nostalgia act and play their best albums, so i guess that Wayne might think: why not trying to do the same.

czuczu wrote:Yeah but they could just play the Adams era stuff and that is a tasty proposition!

Set 1 - With Hussey, Adams, Marx and Eldritch.

F & L & A
Walk Away
No Time To Cry
A Rock & A Hard Place
Marian
Blood Money
Possession
Nine While Nine
Logic
Some Kind Of Stranger

Encore:
Body & Soul
Black Planet
On The Wire


Set 2 - Without Hussey.

Valentine
Heartland
Anaconda
Burn
Body Electric
Floorshow
Fix
Gimme Shelter
Kiss

Encore;
Temple
Alice
1969
Sister Ray


That'd do.
We can dream anyway.

mh wrote:I think it would be a hoot. Legally I don't think there's any reason why they (or anyone else, for that matter) couldn't do it.

None at all. You don't need permission to play songs live, you just fill out a PRS return so the copyright holders get paid. Might be a bit odd for Mish fans to go to a gig and see them playing a set of SOM songs though. Might be better to just do two or three if they really want to. Mind you, Peter Gabriel and Sting are doing a joint tour just now where they sing each other's songs, as well as some duets, so who knows?

It just wouldn't seem right not having lurking about in the smoke... Also I'm probably in a minority here but if albums were going to be played in full (with b-sides) Vision Thing would be my choice. And we would get THAT song!

stufarq wrote:Mind you, Peter Gabriel and Sting are doing a joint tour just now where they sing each other's songs, as well as some duets

There goes my lunch...

I think an arrangement similar to what Hooky sometimes does could work - in his case an opening set of JD songs followed by a main set of NO songs, or vice-versa.

Wayne has done the "play a full album" thing before - when the Mish called it a day in 2008, they played their first four albums on consecutive nights. But I agree, playing an entire SOM album needs to be done by some line-up SOM, under that name, not a different band that happens to include some people who used to be in SOM.

that interview has some unexpected homoerotic sub-tones.


pity eldritch would never agree to such an offer.
but wayne has a point, those songs were supposed to sound that way, not that half-arsed pseudo-metal way they are being played by the hired guns.

billy corgan did tease some sisters songs live nah? or am i just confusing it with someone else..

I am sure that this reunion will not happen...
In case that it will...I will burn all my Sisters collection as The KLF did with the 1 million pounds... BUT I AM QUIET ABOUT IT...

Wayne can do whatever he wants..... as someone wrote he hasn´t recevered from the Sisters era...

But what with Ben en Chris? Can't just chuck then out!
No way!

It's hard to imagine that his comments about the current band would impress Andrew. But playing without him, hmm, can it still be the original format then?

Hom_Corleone wrote:If they played a show of JUST Hussey era material it wouldn't be a very long show would it?
The album and the handful of B sides....

Half the album and the handful of B sides...

Big Si wrote:

Hom_Corleone wrote:If they played a show of JUST Hussey era material it wouldn't be a very long show would it?
The album and the handful of B sides....

Half the album and the handful of B sides...

One B side...

mh wrote:

Big Si wrote:

Hom_Corleone wrote:If they played a show of JUST Hussey era material it wouldn't be a very long show would it?
The album and the handful of B sides....

Half the album and the handful of B sides...

One B side...

Just Blood Money then.