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October 5th: Club Barby, Tel-Aviv Israel
Posted: 29 Jun 2017, 08:51
by vicus
http://m.ynet.co.il/Articles/4981973
Tickets
here
Setlist:
More
Ribbons
Doctor Jeep / Detonation Boulevard
Crash and Burn
No Time to Cry
Walk Away
Body and Soul
Marian
Alice
Arms
Dominion/ Mother Russia
Summer
First and Last and Always
Rumble
Flood II
Encore:
Something Fast
That's When I Reach For My Revolver
Lucretia My Reflection
Vision Thing
Temple of Love
This Corrosion
Re: October 5th - Tel-Aviv
Posted: 29 Jun 2017, 11:34
by Being645
Surprise ...
... and it is already listed on the venue's page -
Thu, 5 October 2017 - Barby Club, Tel Aviv ... *fortunately, they have a "Translate" function there ...
Tickets also available from the venue's website ...
https://www.barby.co.il/hazmen_cards.aspx?id=1838&fr=1
Posted: 06 Jul 2017, 10:34
by Depprocksfarfar
Posted: 06 Jul 2017, 16:21
by Pista
I wonder when Roger Waters will phone
about this one.
Posted: 06 Jul 2017, 19:52
by Being645
Pista wrote:I wonder when Roger Waters will phone
about this one.
Yeah,
BDS is definitely an issue, like with South Africa back in the days ... personally, I'm somewhat undecided about the cultural part of it ... and because Ofra Haza was one of the best things to happen, both to The Sisters of Mercy and Israel ...
Posted: 06 Jul 2017, 21:05
by Pista
Being645 wrote: Ofra Haza was one of the best things to happen, both to The Sisters of Mercy and Israel ...
She wasn't the best thing to happen to The Sisters at all. Wailing harpy if you ask me. Ruined my favourite Sisters song
But that's a different discussion
Posted: 06 Jul 2017, 21:58
by iesus
They could have write one other new song for that cooperation and sound better. At least i agree with Steve on this and had that opinion since day 1 of hearing it on MTV.
Posted: 06 Jul 2017, 22:43
by jost 7
Pista wrote:Being645 wrote:
She wasn't the best thing to happen to The Sisters at all. Wailing harpy if you ask me. Ruined my favourite Sisters song
But that's a different discussion
So regarding this other discussion: its not her who did a bad job, its some of the music bits which do not get to the point. It could have been brutally excellent. With some of the 93 live parts it indeed were better. But, i still mostly like it, sometimes.
The original belongs to 83 and got stuck there.
Posted: 06 Jul 2017, 23:48
by iesus
jost 7 wrote: It could have been brutally excellent. With some of the 93 live parts it indeed were better.
Sounds like a Project Kiss Kass Remix challenge
Posted: 06 Jul 2017, 23:56
by Being645
jost 7 wrote:Pista wrote:Being645 wrote: Ofra Haza was one of the best things to happen, both to The Sisters of Mercy and Israel ...
She wasn't the best thing to happen to The Sisters at all. Wailing harpy if you ask me. Ruined my favourite Sisters song
But that's a different discussion
So regarding this other discussion: its not her who did a bad job, its some of the music bits which do not get to the point. It could have been brutally excellent. With some of the 93 live parts it indeed were better. But, i still mostly like it, sometimes.
The original belongs to 83 and got stuck there.
The 1992 original is an original in itself. It is a different song, very different, IMO, up-to-date at the time,
just as much as deeply rooted in The Sisters' tradition up to its release, Floodland included. And I like it...
...
@Pista
Calling that voice a wailing harpy ...
... of course, the song didn't leave her much opportunity
not to sound somewhat like that, but I think she clearly managed to escape the cliché ...
...
Posted: 07 Jul 2017, 08:45
by Izzy HaveMercy
Re Ofra Haza vs. The Sisters...
I think Luciano Pavarotti was an amazing singer.
I think The Safety Dance by Men Without Hats is a superb song.
Now put those two together and you have one of the World Wonders, right?
IZ.
Posted: 07 Jul 2017, 09:34
by Charlie
Leaving aside Ofra's vocals, i really love the 92 version.
I also really like the original but i'm gonna be controversial and say i prefer 92 more.
I really wish that version was available without her vocals, now that would be awesome
And can i just say
@Izzy - i am so pleased to see someone else also has love for The Safety Dance.
Posted: 08 Jul 2017, 00:18
by ruffers
Another Safety Dancer over here, great tune.
Posted: 08 Jul 2017, 01:19
by eastmidswhizzkid
safety dance = check.
TOL 83 is FAR superior to 92, even allowing for our dear departed Ofra's AWESOME ethereal vocals (which definitely only improve '92 ...if '83 wasnt perfect her vocals could improve that but it is perfect so there.)
look - '82 alice is perfect but '93 version has enough good s**t that '82 doesnt that it is totally valid.
EDIT: if eldritch wanted to re-record his entire back catalogue in a barber-shop stylee it wouldnt hurt the originals and would be better than releasing FU
CK ALL.
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 10:41
by ruffers
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 10:48
by markfiend
Counterpoint
I'm disappointed that The Sisters are playing in Israel.
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 11:03
by ruffers
Me too.
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 11:20
by Bartek
markfiend wrote:Counterpoint
I'm disappointed that The Sisters are playing in Israel.
So, i guess that USA tour in 2006, and 1991 were also wrong (wars started by USA), in Hungary, when Orban is president, Russia under Putin/Medvedev or Poland under current gov.
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 12:13
by markfiend
It's not the same thing at all. The people of those countries have not asked for a boycott; the people of Palestine have.
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 12:32
by Bartek
Just to be clear, i think what Isreal's gov. does with Palestinians is horrible and should be condemned, but not playing gigs because citizens of other country ask to do so, well, that's whole new thing. It reminds a bit situation in RSA in 80's.
I could not criticise TSOM and any other band or musicans for playing there, it's up to their free will. After all we can pressume that AE is against what State of Isreal does with Palestinians; and being there allows AE (as well as any other artists), to speak up, say something form stage.
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 18:00
by Being645
Bartek wrote:Just to be clear, i think what Isreal's gov. does with Palestinians is horrible and should be condemned, but not playing gigs because citizens of other country ask to do so, well, that's whole new thing. It reminds a bit situation in RSA in 80's.
Exactly that is what it is about -
Apartheid. In this case, Israeli Apartheid towards Palestinians ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott,_ ... _Sanctions
Bartek wrote:
I could not criticise TSOM and any other band or musicans for playing there, it's up to their free will. After all we can pressume that AE is against what State of Isreal does with Palestinians; and being there allows AE (as well as any other artists), to speak up, say something form stage.
In the 70s/80s it was also not exactly well perceived for bands to play @Sun City ...
Heaven knows whether that really added up to the end of South African Apartheid, at least it brought the issue into public awareness again and again ...
...
As for The Sisters, I wish they played Ramallah or Nablus as well ...
...
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 21:19
by Bartek
Thom Furhmann ex- Savage Republic wrote:
We play for people so they can forget about their governments for a couple hours. Why should a band punish their fans simply because of where they live! Ridiculous...
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 10:22
by markfiend
I was going to mention Sun City too.
And to be fair, how many Palestinians are likely to be allowed into the Tel-Aviv Club Barby?
But by opposing Israeli policy towards Palestine I'm sure I'm being one of those antisemitic leftists
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 10:49
by Bartek
That's right, you antisemitic leftist.
I keep wonder, so are you gonna skip TSOM gigs in UK and elsewhere for the sake of protest against their gig in Tel-Aviv? Or no, because it's a different thing. And, was that issue when TSOM played in Isreal in 2006, 'cause i can't recall?
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 12:13
by markfiend
Oh I'd forgotten about them playing there previously
I'm not going to any of this year's gigs but that's not out of protest, it's because I have no money