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Incredible detailed account of TSOM 1983 in The Quietus
Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 20:10
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
Who were Jack and Nora? Which TSOM band member's Mum drove the band to the Clash support? What is "Dead and American"?
These and many other questions are answered in Mark Andrews' definitive account of the most creative year in the band's history (1983) in his new article for The Quietus. Put your feet up, pour yourself a drink, and read this :
http://thequietus.com/articles/23082-si ... -gary-marx
Incredible stuff!
Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 20:39
by mh
This is awesome stuff. Probably the most Craig has ever spoken about his time in the band post-split? Wayne's assessment of the 82/83 material shedding a LOT of light on certain things. A cracking good read.
Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 22:13
by paint it black
nice that my mate's old band and the house they all lived in got a mention
https://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic ... ht=#619422
a good read indeed
Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 22:30
by Being645
Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 22:33
by Charlie
Posted: 31 Aug 2017, 00:13
by copper
“There was a throwback punk kid stood in the front of Andrew,� recalls Marx, “who had some connection with a local band on the bill and had the big spiked hair and The Exploited or some such stencilled on his leather jacket.�
The punk was staring too intently or mouthed something or spat – his exact infraction had been forgotten - but as Adams began the opening heavy Motörhead-like chords of ‘Floorshow’ the punk attempted to climb up on to the stage.
Adams let go of his instrument, rushed forward and kicked him in the face. As the punk scurried off the stage, Adams carried on with ‘Floorshow’. Justice had been swift: Adams had only missed out one bar.
Well, see for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJHigbmu8js#t=17m04s
Craig's Big Moment. That bass sound is ridiculously mean and after the fact, it looks like he's circling
for a brief, like a guard dog.
During the same song, came the pies. Go figure.
Posted: 31 Aug 2017, 05:13
by UniversalRinging
Loved it!!!
Posted: 31 Aug 2017, 11:14
by Pista
That is an extraordinary read
I love the “Robert Smith light� description of Wayne
Posted: 31 Aug 2017, 12:22
by Planet Dave
Nice read!
Posted: 31 Aug 2017, 13:54
by robertzombie
Excellent
Posted: 31 Aug 2017, 21:28
by ribbons69
copper wrote:“There was a throwback punk kid stood in the front of Andrew,� recalls Marx, “who had some connection with a local band on the bill and had the big spiked hair and The Exploited or some such stencilled on his leather jacket.�
The punk was staring too intently or mouthed something or spat – his exact infraction had been forgotten - but as Adams began the opening heavy Motörhead-like chords of ‘Floorshow’ the punk attempted to climb up on to the stage.
Adams let go of his instrument, rushed forward and kicked him in the face. As the punk scurried off the stage, Adams carried on with ‘Floorshow’. Justice had been swift: Adams had only missed out one bar.
Well, see for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJHigbmu8js#t=17m04s
Craig's Big Moment. That bass sound is ridiculously mean and after the fact, it looks like he's circling
for a brief, like a guard dog.
During the same song, came the pies. Go figure.
The sad aspect of that footage, and I say this as a fan of over thirty years and someone who loves the current incarnation and will be doing both London gigs, is that Doktor Avalanche sounds better there than he will at the Roundhouse tomorrow.
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 07:41
by Llamatron
copper wrote:
Well, see for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJHigbmu8js#t=17m04s
Craig's Big Moment. That bass sound is ridiculously mean and after the fact, it looks like he's circling
for a brief, like a guard dog.
During the same song, came the pies. Go figure.
Steve Albini cited The Sisters as one of his inspirations for Big Black, and given the sound of that era of the band, it's not hard to hear why.
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 09:37
by radiojamaica
This is the s**t!!!
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 09:43
by Izzy HaveMercy
A very good read, thanks for that!
IZ.
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 10:45
by deirfiur
Brilliant stuff - makes me teary eyed thinking of those times, being 14yrs old and the band taking on the world. Nostalgia is not a bad thing - it's the past that shapes us and hopefully things might come full circle. It was probably one of the most enjoyable times for all involved - even if some don’t want to admit it
Is there any chance of an official release of demo's , rarities, outtakes or is does that require too many lawyers and intermediaries
They are all in the final third and should realize how fortunate they were
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 14:04
by Brad
Really just makes me pine for a full fledged book on the matter.
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 14:31
by ruffers
Thank you.
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 15:41
by Zacharias
Best read on World Wide Web in quite some time.
Brad wrote:Really just makes me pine for a full fledged book on the matter.
Indeed!
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 15:55
by Being645
Zacharias wrote:Best read on World Wide Web in quite some time.
Brad wrote:Really just makes me pine for a full fledged book on the matter.
Indeed!
Absolutely. Gary is very good at describing all that was and making things come alive ...
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Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 17:22
by Arrrgh!
Great read. I learned a lot from this.
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 18:52
by euphoria
Very interesting read, and I really hope there will be a next part with Taylor-turned-Eldritch sailing far up the river
As others have said, I have learnt new things. That Gary Marx seemed to be so sober, almost ascetic and non-partying surprised me.
But, where did they get their money from before the successful singles, I mean staying up all night taking expensive speed and generally "hanging around" 24 hours a day, going to the pub daily and having instruments, recording/playing...sounds like great but, well, expensive fun
And did Andrew drive a whole roadtrip without a driver's license!? Those were the days
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 19:17
by million voices
Absolutely fascinating.
Many thanks for pointing it out.
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 20:29
by Big Si
euphoria wrote:Very interesting read, and I really hope there will be a next part with Taylor-turned-Eldritch sailing far up the river
As others have said, I have learnt new things. That Gary Marx seemed to be so sober, almost ascetic and non-partying surprised me.
But, where did they get their money from before the successful singles, I mean staying up all night taking expensive speed and generally "hanging around" 24 hours a day, going to the pub daily and having instruments, recording/playing...sounds like great but, well, expensive fun
And did Andrew drive a whole roadtrip without a driver's license!? Those were the days
Back then you could still survive on relatively little coming in as an "Income" and the DSS needed lots of proof before they could try and stop your benefits if you'd done some casual or infrequently paid work. Many bands even received Grants from the Benefits Office to help them start out. I think Ex-Students could still apply for Funding back then, as they could say they were taking a year out between courses?
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 20:57
by mandrake
Bloody hell..that is a great superb article..
Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 22:08
by AdrenaChris
Really good article. Some Girls...was actually the first CD I bought of TSOM, so I discovered/fell in love with that more raw, metallic punk sounding material before I discovered a lot of the later stuff.