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Eldritch was wrong

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 14:20
by XidiouX
"I was wrong"

Name some things Von was wrong about.

I'll start with Suede, whom he dismissed (in the Bowie interview) as mere Ziggy rip-off merchants. Of course, Ziggy and 70's glam were influences - so what? Now looking back over Suede's career (and even at the time - has Von ever even heard, let alone listened to Dog Man Star?) there's no question about them being a highly distinct and justifiably acclaimed band.

Oh, and while we're at it, he was wrong about '1. Outside' as well and still is, apparently. There are some great songs on that album, by any standard. 'Strangers When We Meet' alone is a candidate for Bowie's best song.

Re: Eldritch was wrong

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 15:36
by Being645
XidiouX wrote:
[...] he was wrong about '1. Outside' as well. There are some great songs on that album, by any standard. 'Strangers When We Meet' alone is a candidate for Bowie's best song.
Absolutely... :lol: ... that record is a clear masterpiece. And very necessary at the time.

Though 'Strangers When We Meet' is not on all the standard releases, AFAIK, so he might have missed it ... :wink: ...

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 15:42
by czuczu
Strangers When We Meet should have been left on Buddha of Suburbia. 1. Outside is magnificent thought :D

He was wrong to go on strike..

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 15:43
by XidiouX
Well 'Hallo Spaceboy' then. He wouldn't have missed that. Excellent song!!!! :D

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 15:52
by XidiouX
> He was wrong to go on strike..

Interesting. What would you suggest he should have done instead?

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 16:01
by Purple Light
He was wrong, he was wrong to ever doubt.





(Couldn't help it!)

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 16:12
by Being645
XidiouX wrote:> He was wrong to go on strike..

Interesting. What would you suggest he should have done instead?
Talk to Bowie ... :wink: ...

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 17:00
by Planet Dave
Purple Light wrote:He was wrong, he was wrong to ever doubt.





(Couldn't help it!)
Fortunately, he can get along without, so nothing to see here ;D

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 17:16
by sultan2075
XidiouX wrote:> He was wrong to go on strike..

Interesting. What would you suggest he should have done instead?
Contractual fulfillment via a ripping live album recorded in 1997-1998. Wasn't there even talk about the Dark Christmas in London show having been recorded for just such a purpose?

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 17:33
by XidiouX
It would have to have been earlier than that. 1997 was the SSV/War on Drugs year.

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 18:03
by sultan2075
XidiouX wrote:It would have to have been earlier than that. 1997 was the SSV/War on Drugs year.
When was the one-off in Philadelphia? I'm getting old. Can't recall. That incarnation of the band could have made a stonking live record.

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 18:07
by Being645
sultan2075 wrote:
XidiouX wrote:It would have to have been earlier than that. 1997 was the SSV/War on Drugs year.
When was the one-off in Philadelphia? I'm getting old. Can't recall. That incarnation of the band could have made a stonking live record.
https://sisterswiki.org/Sat,_28-Jun-1997 ... Dark Harvest Festival Philadelphia / Distance Over Time Tour

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 18:43
by czuczu
sultan2075 wrote:
XidiouX wrote:> He was wrong to go on strike..

Interesting. What would you suggest he should have done instead?
Contractual fulfillment via a ripping live album recorded in 1997-1998. Wasn't there even talk about the Dark Christmas in London show having been recorded for just such a purpose?
Hamburg '90 was recorded for release.

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 22:09
by hippie-bullsh-t-hater
Suede has always been a class a band. I couldnt share his criticism here. Glam Rock sounds more like T. Rex (htats really a bit s**t) but Suede is a lot more than that, with lots of grat stuff b sides (painted People and so on)

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 23:12
by Swinnow
to move away from glam rock cover versions

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 07:31
by Norman Hunter
Purple Light wrote:He was wrong
He professed a love of Man Utd. Draw your own conclusions.

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 11:46
by Swinnow
Worse than allegedly being a Man Utd fan, he then changed teams and is now apparently a fan of Dirty Leeds. No grown man can do this and carry his head high.

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 13:34
by Norman Hunter
Swinnow wrote:Worse than allegedly being a Man Utd fan, he then changed teams and is now apparently a fan of Dirty Leeds. No grown man can do this and carry his head high.
I call s**t on that one.

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 15:36
by Guedzilla

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 15:59
by czuczu
Norman Hunter wrote:
Swinnow wrote:Worse than allegedly being a Man Utd fan, he then changed teams and is now apparently a fan of Dirty Leeds. No grown man can do this and carry his head high.
I call s**t on that one.
Image

Man Utd top on stage. Had a scarf around his waist too, the day after he watched them at the 91 European Cup Winners final.



Best show I ever saw them play and we have Man Utd to thank for it. :roll: :lol:

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 16:00
by czuczu
XidiouX wrote:> He was wrong to go on strike..

Interesting. What would you suggest he should have done instead?
Not gone on strike.

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 17:31
by Planet Dave
There's a lot to thank Manchester United for. Imagine how much extra bile there'd be circulating round people's brains if they hadn't had United to direct it at over the last 20 years.

As for Von, Chairman Bux posted on here years ago that his on-off support switched off permanently when they became a PLC in 92. So, a glory hunter from the days when they were anything but, deserves a peculiar sort of respect for that, I suppose.

It is nice to observe that all the muppets are wearing Liverpool and city shirts these days, I must say. You're welcome to them.

Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 07:58
by Norman Hunter
czuczu wrote:Man Utd top on stage.
My point exactly. No f*cker comes back from that. Anyway, I digress - on with the thread...

Posted: 14 Nov 2019, 21:51
by Somekindadion
Von was wrong to let through the keyhole do a tv special . The cats out of the bag as the program revealed that the Reptilian Rock Gog is really a closet Stamp collecting , Soap Binge watcher . His cd collection revealed a passion for Brotherhood of Man and Max Bygraves

Posted: 14 Nov 2019, 22:21
by elamanamou
You never saw a copy of Salad Daze? :innocent: