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This topic has maybe been discussed? Which songs do you think will make it to the (potential) new TSOM album?

Probly many times before, but it's good to get an up to date list anyway.

So far I think we have:

Come Together
War On Drugs
Summer
(We Are The Same) Suzanne
Romeo Down
Will I Dream?
Crash And Burn
Top Nite Out
Slept

May have missed one or two here. I make that 9 songs. As for which will be on the mythical beast, should a reliable sighting of it ever emerge, it's anyone's guess really. Come Together is 10 years old this year, and most of the rest are at least 5. We're all madly familiar with them, and there's a high probability that anyone who wants copies of them badly enough already has them. So my guess is none.

Assuming there ever is a new LP, that is (of course).

He always tends to insinuate that any new album would be written in the studio, so maybe none of the live songs of the last ten years would be used.

I spose he might stick them on b-sides....who're we kidding, new album my arse.

mh - If you're right, the new album will be better than Vision Thing but not nearly as good as Floodland. But nobody expects that right?

mh wrote:Probly many times before, but it's good to get an up to date list anyway.

So far I think we have:

Come Together
War On Drugs
Summer
(We Are The Same) Suzanne
Romeo Down
Will I Dream?
Crash And Burn
Top Nite Out
Slept

A cover would be nice as well - I'd love a good copy of "Bei Mir" by the Sisters. Mind you, out of that list I'd quite happily say goodbye to Come Together, Romeo Down and I'm still not sure about slept.

Hi all,

I have always been of the opinion that none of these songs would or could be on a new album.

Some of them are good, very good, but everyone knows them now and after playing Come together live for over 10 years it would be bitterly disapointing to see it promoted as new material.

I think though that they would make excellent B-sides and what with most CD singles now just having multiple remixes of the same songs they could mark a welcome return to the 4 or even 5 track singles of the eighties.

Under the gun was essentialy a 2 track single and Temple of love 92 was as well (on the 12" version anyway).
I dont think they could realy get away with that now.

Cheers.

That's another thing - what's with the sisters tenuous definition of "remixes". Von either plays it backwards (!), or cuts the end off, and then renames it. What a copout.

Off the top of my head theres (and this is excluding "extended" versions and re-recordings)

Under the Gun Metropolis and Jutland mixes
Vision Thing Canada Club remix
when you don't see me (the single) - thats meant to be a remix
I was wrong american fade
Ozymandis and untitled - both versions of dominion
WYDSM - German mix?

And to be honest I really can't tell much of a difference between them - the VT CC remix has got that quote from AN that sounds cool, but whats up with the rest? Are they just truncated versions for the most part?

And then youv'e got the aborted release of Summer as a single which was supposedly gonna have 2 remixes of the song on it.

Now I would be realy hacked off if that was the next thing we got

Although if we got an updated Giving ground that might placate me a tiny tiny little bit.

I was thinking exactly the same thing - top of the list for a rerecording is Giving Ground.

Suzanne would be my pick mostly becasue its a great song.

As for the rest....he's far too egotistical to issue the same old drivel as a new release and think he'd actually get away with it. It would essentially go nowhere. No singles, no radio play....nothing!

Perhaps I am a bit overly optimistic....but then again I tend to see things in a positive light.... I would think he'd release NEW material that would knock your socks off... like Floodland. But I think he'd need to partner with Steinman for that.

zaltys7 wrote:I think though that they would make excellent B-sides and what with most CD singles now just having multiple remixes of the same songs they could mark a welcome return to the 4 or even 5 track singles of the eighties.

Under the gun was essentialy a 2 track single and Temple of love 92 was as well (on the 12" version anyway).
I dont think they could realy get away with that now.

Don't hold your breathe on the 4 or 5 track CD. In the Daily Express today ...

'It's a pop chart revolution, and it means the end of the CD and cassette single ...'

'... computer downloaded music will count towards a record's position in the top 100 ...'

'' ...singles paid for and downloaded legally ...will count towards sales figures ...'

'The only people buying singles in the shops are seven-to-12 year-olds who are out in town on a saturday afternoon ...'

'Also amongst the raft of measures to make the single charts more representative is a new, budget two-track CD single at £1.99.'

There you go. Whatever's released you can sure it will be backed with the same song but described as 'couldn't be arsed to do anything different with the song except maybe play a bum note here and there but I'll give it an exotic title and you'll lap it up just like everything else I've drip fed you throughout the last ten years mix'

Crash and Burn has got to be a strong contender, since a) it's pretty new, and b) it's very silly (in a brilliant way), in the mould of This Corrosion and More. Other than that, I agree with BP, Suzanne would be great. I'd buy two copies. Heck, I've been saving my 50 pence pocket money for twelve years now, ready to buy the next Sisters record. I currently have over four hundred pounds. I'll buy the shop.

Let's have some new ideas included.
If Von manages to get a record deal, he might even
release two albums in a short period of time.

My guts feeling is that the first album
will include:
Crash and Burn
Summer
Suzanne
Slept

(because otherwise the Sisters concert goers might not buy the album)

while on the second one
Romeo down
Will I dream

will be included as a combined medley.

"War on drugs" will be a left over to be found on
a Gulf war movie soundtrack.

Top nite out is going to be on a CD single or
the theme of a DVD single, which will keep
repeating again and again until you select the
title track or the acoustic version of Ribbons,
which includes the guitar playing of Justin Sullivan or any
other musician- who gives a s**t anyway.

Come together probably will never be released and
this is a shame.

Von once said that the album will be realesed in February but
did not mention a year...let's assume he is already recording it and
we all have no glue about that.
So we have the album all in our hands on February 16th 2004 and will
enjoy a short tour named "Hit the track" next March and Robert
Palmer's "Addicted to love" as lovely encore.

Do I dream ? Probably yes....

LOL.

Welcome.

Jim wrote:LOL.

Welcome.

Yes, welcome Dave C.

@ Jim - Using Buxy's 'location'? Brave man. Very brave man.

Who is the elusive Chairman Bux anyway?

And why does he only post sporadically?

Black Shuck wrote:Who is the elusive Chairman Bux anyway?

And why does he only post sporadically?

A man of mystery. Maybe it's AE and he's too busy working on the new album (STOP laughing!) or maybe, despite his denials, we've all noticed that CB hasn't posted whilst QB's been sunning himself abroad ...

Jim wrote:LOL.

Welcome.

s**t, does he use that?

Damn, I thought I was being original. He posts so sporadically I didn't realise.

Bugger. I'll change it, so as to not incur his wrath.

Welcome Dave C! I like your way of thinking...

Welcome Dave C
You have great ideas
Sorry about "Come together"

IF there's another album sometimes, I think Von would create a tracklist that works the same way as on Floodland or VT:

A stonking opener (Summer?)
Something like "Slept"
another up-tempo-song (Crash & Burn?)
a ballad
the first single (Suzanne?)
a filler (Will I dream?)
another up-tempo-song (war on drugs)
at the end "Romeo Down"

Top Nite Out & Come Together can be found as bonus tracks on the singles 1 + 2, third single features cover-songs by Kylie and the Andrew Sisters.

Please: DON'T WAKE ME UP!!!

ill be happy even if he sings german folklore songs, dont care
AS LONG THE VOICE IS THERE, i even like the tracks on ssv
when you hear him whispering, by the way not a bad record..
(it is him whispering???? )

Must admit I like the SSV album. At any rate it sounds much better than that cat wailing effort he appears on with Sarah Brightman. I can feel my teeth clenching just by thinking about it.

all I want is some TSOM that is new and not bootleg quality

regards
James Blast

I hope it doesn't end with Romeo Down...Even Neverland is better, as is I Was Wrong and Stranger...not Romeo Down, please. They might as well just make a long Come Together / Romeo Down medley, and just call it Big Comedown.

I find myself liking a couple of SSV tracks, especially Shut the Ferk Up, which is quite hypnotic. Says he didn't write it or appear on it. Sometimes seems as though it carries his touch. Do we read in too much sometimes? Of course.

Let's all play Pooh-sticks!