Heartland

So we all know them from Emma, but had a listen to a Spotify playlist of their other stuff the other day and they're really interesting. Then I found this Guardian article which dug deeper - https://www.theguardian.com/music/music ... ange-group there's a lot of dark stuff in there.

Just posted as an fyi.

And also because when i lived in Penge the bloke who did Errol Brown on Stars in Thier Eyes was karaoking in a pub near the station and I made him sing Emma, which confused the locals.

Can we expect Errol Brown themed attire next time around?

Swinnow wrote: ↑29 Nov 2020, 23:25 Can we expect Errol Brown themed attire next time around?

a nice kipper-collared polyester dick* with this suit would do it even.

* dick as in "dickie dirt = shirt" - cockney rhyming slang. i know, stupid isnt it?

Talking of rhyming slang I only very recently discovered that "raspberry" was from "raspberry tart = fart".

markfiend wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 10:12 Talking of rhyming slang I only very recently discovered that "raspberry" was from "raspberry tart = fart".

Encroable! My youngest only today asked me why blowing a raspberry was described as such and now I have the answer! Thank you!

As a devout northerner you can stick all that cockernee cultural imperialism up where the sun don't go. It's bad enough hearing fellow northerners saying 'banter' every five minutes. I blame Eastenders, bring back Brookside NOW.

/rant mode

There's a lot of rhyming slang entered more general English: "Ruby" - "Ruby Murray, curry", "Butchers" - "butcher's hook, look", "Barnet" - "Barnet fair - hair" and perhaps most notoriously "Berk" - "Berkeley hunt"

I also hate the word "banter".

markfiend wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 10:26 I also hate the word "banter".

I don't actually hate the word, it's more a case of using it appropriately. To me it's fine hearing someone from the south-east of England using it in their context but it's well weird hearing a Scot or a Geordie saying it. I love the differences as you move around. I think it's great that a 'vanilla' in Leeds is a 'custard slice' in Liverpool. Having said that though I still worry about Yorkshire people not realising they have had all the currents stolen out of their teacakes.

along with pearly kings and queens, west ham united and ghost-written gentlemen gangster's "auto"-biographies i f**king despise all things cockney. but most of all i hate their ridiculous rhyming s**t. it's not even any good. it's like Edward Leer in a sheepskin drinking babycham mixed with Watney's Red Barrel and faking a stroke. berkley hunts to a man.

however i do like Leith-style Irvin Welshb rhyming slang . and the scouse one "Gary Abblet = tablet, as in Ecstasy " is very good.

Swinnow wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 10:56 I still worry about Yorkshire people not realising they have had all the currents stolen out of their teacakes.

that one's not just Yorkshire though, my mum has always called the plain, currantless kind of bread roll a teacake and she's from Greater Manchester.

Wikipedia wrote:In East Lancashire, the former West Riding of Yorkshire, Cumbria and elsewhere in the North like the town of Barnsley, a teacake is a round bread roll which is cut in half to make sandwiches. They do not usually contain any sort of dried fruit.

(Source)

And of course in Scotland this is a teacake.

markfiend wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 12:17 And of course in Scotland this is a teacake.

mmmm tunnock's.... but not deep-fried.

Yorkshire and Lancashire agreeing on something! Well I'll be damned

btw - The Wirral was in Cheshire when I was born, consequently I have no dog in that fight and no understanding of cricket either.

I don't mind a bit of NOrthern rhyming eg, that lot's bobbins.

As we used to say dan at upton park

YOR GOIN OME IN A FACKIN AMBALANCE

And at the rave - You're going home in a floating ambience.................