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russian roulette
Posted: 05 Oct 2003, 22:57
by RicheyJames
anyone watch it? thought it was absolutely gripping myself.
and i can't understand what all the fuss is about either. "magicians" are always performing tricks in which they appear to be risking their lives. in fact, didn't paul daniels once end a tv show leaving the impression that everything had gone horribly wrong and he had in fact died? or was that just wishful thinking?
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 01:49
by Padstar
I suppose shoving swords through bikini clad ladies in boxes and sawing them in half could be considered slightly risky.
Paul Daniels..... Ide love to see him do the russian roulette thing, as long as he used an automatic
Paddy.
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 08:36
by Izzy HaveMercy
Being an amateur magician meself, maybe you can post a link to the RR thingy or explain a bit more.
If it's a trick, I'll tell ya
But I won't tell the secret
IZZY.
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 09:29
by Ian - Rhythm Smurph
I didn't watch Derren Brown doing his russian roulette thingy but I did watch the 50 greatest later on. I'm also a bit of an amature magician and love all that stuff!
Re: Paul Daniels - he did indeed end a TV show with the impressions he had died, only to pop up after the next show that night - he got a lot of stick for that - scaring kinds on prime time etc.
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 10:02
by Izzy HaveMercy
I went to a magic day on Saturday here in Belgium.
And I met Jeff Sheridan.
You can touch me
Oh. And we totally thrashed David Blaine.
And I got Sheridan's signature
IZZY.
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 11:54
by Izzy HaveMercy
I read the article about the Russian Roulette and saw the streaming vid.
Nicely done. Love it.
And what's even better.... Most peeps think the trick went wrong.
But it was what Derren intended...
What would be more impressive: take a gun, put it to yer head, pull the trigger five times, hear five audible *clicks*, then shoot at the sandbag, or... take a gun, PITYH, pull the trigger twice, hear two audible *clicks*, hesitate with the third attempt, then point at the sandbag, fire the gun, hear a *click* since the chamber is empty, try again pointing at yer head twice, then shoot the bullet in the sandbag.
It's all about suspense. And the latter scenario HAS more suspense than the former...
IZZY.
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 13:06
by mayhem
All the hype put me off watching this but do any of you remember Doug Henning?
Did a brilliant illusion in which he was supposed to have drowned himself failing to escape from a tank of water.. a fireman rushed onstage to try to rescue him.. loads of suspense etc & it turned out of course that the fireman was Henning...
Probably very simple stuff but it made an impression ( I was about nine I think)
M
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 13:24
by Izzy HaveMercy
Henning was indeed a master magician, together with Daniels, Sheridan, Penn & Teller, and Slydini, to name but a few.
Despite the fact that he was a transcendental hippie an a bit cuckoo in the head
I really love his style. I loathe his clothing, tho.
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 13:55
by MrChris
I thought it was fairly good t.v. But the guy's till called Derren, for Christssake...
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 13:59
by Quiff Boy
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 15:13
by Jim
I thought it was great - I think the guys fantastic. And as set up as the whole "oops I got it wrong" thing was, it was very effective.
Great showman.
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 15:31
by Big Si
mayhem wrote:All the hype put me off watching this but do any of you remember Doug Henning?
Did a brilliant illusion in which he was supposed to have drowned himself failing to escape from a tank of water.. a fireman rushed onstage to try to rescue him.. loads of suspense etc & it turned out of course that the fireman was Henning...
Probably very simple stuff but it made an impression ( I was about nine I think)
M
Jerry Sadowitz does a mean card trick!
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 16:12
by Thea
bah.
it's not "magic". when i was tiny i thought paul daniels and ali bongo were gods and was facinated by magic. this sort of stuff just makes me very very bitter
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 20:45
by Mrs RicheyJames
Bugger, missed it!!!
Think that Mr Blaine is a pain in the ar*e, can't stand watching him!!
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 23:51
by James Blast
I have a solution....
Derren shoots David Blaine's box, no?
it's all ice cream to me
regards
James Blast
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 00:12
by Andy TG
d00mw0lf wrote:bah.
it's not "magic". when i was tiny i thought paul daniels and ali bongo were gods and was facinated by magic. this sort of stuff just makes me very very bitter
I always like Ali Bongo when I was a kid but I always thought even as a child that Paul Daniels was a ****!
Daniels did a have a mad, bald German guy on his show a few times - he was great!
He also had a guy who did wonderful things with bubbles - including a square bubble with cigarette smoke inside it - oh the glamour!
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 15:35
by MrChris
Police have apparently just confirmed that the bullet concerned was a blank. Ho-hum...I guess it would be kind of odd to criticise magicians for not doing 'real magic'...
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 15:47
by Loki
MrChris wrote:'real magic'...
A nice little contradiction in words.
Illusions, tricks ...or should that be cons? Personally I can't get off on something I know is blatantly not real.
Apart from when Copperfield made the Orient Express dissappear after wrapping a big sheet around it. That was real. My Dad said so.
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 17:54
by Tinkerbell
AndyTheGoth wrote:d00mw0lf wrote:bah.
it's not "magic". when i was tiny i thought paul daniels and ali bongo were gods and was facinated by magic. this sort of stuff just makes me very very bitter
I always like Ali Bongo when I was a kid but I always thought even as a child that Paul Daniels was a ****!
Daniels did a have a mad, bald German guy on his show a few times - he was great!
He also had a guy who did wonderful things with bubbles - including a square bubble with cigarette smoke inside it - oh the glamour!
The mad german was Hans Moretti - he was great!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 18:00
by Jim
Square bubbles? Can your really do that?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3169388.stm
(the derren brown thang)
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 18:06
by Big Si
The Great Suprendo (Mr Victoria Wood) did 'em all the time. You never saw Crackerjack when you were a nipper, then pal? Or were you out in the garden chasing Fairies?
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 18:58
by James Blast
Crackerjack!
were you were supposed to reply in kind everytime one of them said it
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 21:07
by Mrs RicheyJames
AndyTheGoth wrote:d00mw0lf wrote:bah.
it's not "magic". when i was tiny i thought paul daniels and ali bongo were gods and was facinated by magic. this sort of stuff just makes me very very bitter
I always like Ali Bongo when I was a kid but I always thought even as a child that Paul Daniels was a ****!
Daniels did a have a mad, bald German guy on his show a few times - he was great!
He also had a guy who did wonderful things with bubbles - including a square bubble with cigarette smoke inside it - oh the glamour!
Bloody hell, I remember that!!!!!