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putting records straight

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 15:19
by hallucienate
Does anyone have any good advice on straightening old vinyl LPs? Some of mine seem to be a bit warped.

Anyone had any personal experience with this and can tell what works best and what doesn't?

Does the old "leave between two panes of glass in the sun" routine work?

Re: putting records straight

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 15:27
by Loki
hallucienate wrote: Does the old "leave between two panes of glass in the sun" routine work?
Not in London. See 'a very Special Relationship' thread ... :wink:

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 15:28
by CellThree
I had the first Fields Of The Nephilim ep the wouldn't play due to warping. All I did was put it in the middle of my record pile with about 30 12" on top of it for a couple of weeks. That straightened it out ok.

I know piling records on top of one another isn't a good thing but I was really low on space at the time!

Re: putting records straight

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 16:08
by randdebiel²
hallucienate wrote:Does anyone have any good advice on straightening old vinyl LPs? Some of mine seem to be a bit warped.

Anyone had any personal experience with this and can tell what works best and what doesn't?

Does the old "leave between two panes of glass in the sun" routine work?
it works.... :wink:

Re: putting records straight

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 17:40
by DomConway
hallucienate wrote:Does anyone have any good advice on straightening old vinyl LPs? Some of mine seem to be a bit warped.

Anyone had any personal experience with this and can tell what works best and what doesn't?

Does the old "leave between two panes of glass in the sun" routine work?
Apparently so. That and another interesting method here:
http://www.care-and-feeding-of-vinyl.co ... ation.html

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 17:53
by Quiff Boy
cooo. 8)

i've had a 12" of 242's headhunter/welcome to paradise that has been slightly warped for years... might give it a go ;)

its a wierd warp on this one though - starting from the outside edge, and going inwards for about 1", there's a bizarre "lip" on the vinyl. its just sort of bends upwards. i cant get rid of it - have tried stacking it between several dozen other records... no success :(

each revolution, when the needle gets to that point of the record (lasts for the first minute or so of the 1st track on each side) the needle just shoots into the air to land randomly (and messily) somewhere else in the track :urff: not ideal... :roll:

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 18:01
by Quiff Boy
on a similar note, i have a wee question re: pre-amps and turntables.

i use a simple 100 quid dj-mixing desk to connect my turntable to my amp as it has no phono stage/pre-amp of its own.

i bought the mixer a long time ago for dj use when i had both decks set up. it does its job nicely, but does mean i have to have the mixer turned on and the channel set correctly in order to play records...

however, i only use the one deck now. like a normal record player. i havent got the room for a second deck to be set up :(

so would i be better buying a dedicated phono pre-amp instead of the mixer? or perhaps more correctly, would i be any worse off?

would the sound be any better/worse if i got a run-of-the-mill pre-amp for 50 quid (or whatever) from super-fi or richer sounds or something?

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 18:13
by randdebiel²
Quiff Boy wrote:cooo. 8)

i've had a 12" of 242's headhunter/welcome to paradise that has been slightly warped for years... might give it a go ;)

its a wierd warp on this one though - starting from the outside edge, and going inwards for about 1", there's a bizarre "lip" on the vinyl. its just sort of bends upwards. i cant get rid of it - have tried stacking it between several dozen other records... no success :(

each revolution, when the needle gets to that point of the record (lasts for the first minute or so of the 1st track on each side) the needle just shoots into the air to land randomly (and messily) somewhere else in the track :urff: not ideal... :roll:
that's classic, with the glass and sun trick it should work :) I had that with a :oops: Mike Oldfield :oops: record

Re: putting records straight

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 18:14
by Black Shuck
Johnny Boy wrote:
hallucienate wrote: Does the old "leave between two panes of glass in the sun" routine work?
Not in London. See 'a very Special Relationship' thread ... :wink:
Ha ha ha quality!
You've given me my daily chuckle; Much-needed to keep the blues at bay.

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 18:18
by hallucienate
cool, thanks, I'll give it a go next time I've got some free time in the sun.

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 18:21
by mh
Quiff Boy wrote:so would i be better buying a dedicated phono pre-amp instead of the mixer? or perhaps more correctly, would i be any worse off?

would the sound be any better/worse if i got a run-of-the-mill pre-amp for 50 quid (or whatever) from super-fi or richer sounds or something?
A dedicated pre-amp should always be better, but the main prob I find is that what a lot of hi-fi dudes describe as "better" mostly sounds just plain dull to my ears. All the hi-fi stuff is present and correct alright, but the excitement is gone. This is particularly true with vinyl, where an 80 quid Sony (with integrated pre-amp!!!) sounds far more engaging to me than certain other stuff I've heard.

Re: putting records straight

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 18:21
by Loki
Black Shuck wrote:
Johnny Boy wrote:
hallucienate wrote: Does the old "leave between two panes of glass in the sun" routine work?
Not in London. See 'a very Special Relationship' thread ... :wink:
Ha ha ha quality!
You've given me my daily chuckle; Much-needed to keep the blues at bay.
You're welcome. :P

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 19:07
by Silence is platinum
Quiff Boy wrote:on a similar note, i have a wee question re: pre-amps and turntables.

i use a simple 100 quid dj-mixing desk to connect my turntable to my amp as it has no phono stage/pre-amp of its own.

i bought the mixer a long time ago for dj use when i had both decks set up. it does its job nicely, but does mean i have to have the mixer turned on and the channel set correctly in order to play records...

however, i only use the one deck now. like a normal record player. i havent got the room for a second deck to be set up :(

so would i be better buying a dedicated phono pre-amp instead of the mixer? or perhaps more correctly, would i be any worse off?

try the nad pre amp don t remember the type right now, but
you should get it in a good price. otherwise, sell the mixer and the
amp and get a creek amp. you won t regret it..






would the sound be any better/worse if i got a run-of-the-mill pre-amp for 50 quid (or whatever) from super-fi or richer sounds or something?

putting records

Posted: 17 Nov 2003, 20:22
by Silence is platinum
sorry Quiff can t find the nad pre-amp which type it is
the creek amp is 4330mk2
if i m not mistaken nad had only one pre amp,at least
without paying a fortune for it.
why dont you try ebay for that?
i hope this info will help you out