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"knocking on heaven's door" demo
Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 16:40
by Quiff Boy
has anyone got any background info on the demo of "knocking on heaven's door" on JansenClone's cd#2?
http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic. ... 20KNOCKING
ie: when was it recorded, and why? with a view to possible use as a b-side? the notes say it was taken from the "victims of circumstance" demo boot...
Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 17:04
by mh
I have it on the Ultra Rare Trax boot, fades out and back in again about half-way through. I remember discussing this on Dominion about 90/91 ish, and it transpired back then that Warners had suggested an LP of cover versions as a possible project, so a few demos were knocked together. It comes from mid 84 ish I think, and would imagine there may be comtemporaneous demos of the likes of Emma and Jolene.
This is, of course, all hearsay.
Posted: 21 Nov 2003, 01:02
by James Blast
I allas wonderd if the 'Victims Of Circumstance' would surface on here. A mate taped it for me on a '70s Dad Style, shocking stereogram with tape deck affair' about 13 years ago. I was beginning to think it was bogus product. Jessica's Crime was on it, not a Sisters tune I believe?
Posted: 21 Nov 2003, 01:06
by Quiff Boy
Posted: 21 Nov 2003, 01:08
by James Blast
Still a damn fine tune, I thought it mighta bin Marx singing on it, ta QB
Posted: 21 Nov 2003, 02:00
by khepri II
HL 4 tells a good story
Mayhaps QB could enquire off his mate Mr Marx
Posted: 21 Nov 2003, 15:07
by MrChris
I always really loved the Heavens Door demo. Interestingly, it doesn't sound much like the live version they used to do. Also interestingly, I wonder if that Duff chappy ever heard it, because the Guns n Roses version sounds not a million miles away from the way they've arranged the song on the demo (though, before I get electronically battered, the Sisters version is obviously far better). The fade out/in is annoying - I always assumed it was a recording mistake, or even someone turning a tape over, no?
Posted: 21 Nov 2003, 17:51
by mh
I heard a bloke in a pub with an acoustic doing the same arrangement the other week too, so maybe there's a common origin.
Posted: 22 Nov 2003, 00:13
by Dan
Red Sunsets wrote:I was beginning to think it was bogus product. Jessica's Crime was on it, not a Sisters tune I believe?
It was produced by Hussey, hence the inclusion.
Legend has it that Marx made the tape for a friend, who copied it for someone else, etc...
Posted: 22 Nov 2003, 00:17
by Dan
MrChris wrote:The fade out/in is annoying - I always assumed it was a recording mistake, or even someone turning a tape over, no?
Yes, it does sound like the product of a faulty tape deck. I got my Victims Of Circumstance tape from a certain basement shop in Leeds, which is probably where they all originated from. I did notice that Garden Of Delight has a fade in it, although it's on a record without a fade, so maybe the other songs exist without a fade.
MrChris wrote:
...because the Guns n Roses version sounds not a million miles away from the way they've arranged the song on the demo...
Although thankfully Eldritch didn't sing it with the annoying "ay ayy ayyyy" part. (What the HELL was that about anyway?)
Posted: 22 Nov 2003, 00:27
by James Blast
Thankee Dan
Posted: 22 Nov 2003, 11:50
by khepri II
Dan
my story is that Gary gave to fan, needed some cash forwarded to Pete and on from there.
the blips are from human error - drop outs and the record head hitting the tape. So yes, there must be more than one source. Don't listen to it that much but have at least three sources, so will see if they are all the same