Heartland

CellThree wrote:isn't it something along the lines of putting your Speed on the knife, running a flame underneath it then sucking up the fumes?

Speed's never been my cup of tea so I'm not 100% on that one.

Quiff Boy wrote:i always assumed it was a "hot knife", for the drugs

MrChris wrote:There's also the cutting up people option / echo - See Ribbons.

I asked Eliot about the prototype of the rough-and-ready Sweeney image in his poems -- for example, in "Sweeney Erect" and "Sweeney Agonistes." He had commented once, "It happens that I know many Sweeneys, some of them among friends of mine. I happen to like the name. It has a pleasant sound."

Among his friends named Sweeney was John Lincoln Sweeney, a humanities preceptor at Harvard. At the River Club, I said, "Your classmate, Conrad Aiken, traces Sweeney to your boxing instructor in the South End of Boston."

"There were others," Eliot said -- among them the bartender at the Opera Exchange, also in Boston, where he had gathered with friends in his Harvard student days, circling Champagne corks on the table in a fortune-telling game. Eliot lifted his forefinger and waved it in a circle.

8. consider the development of the Sweeney figure that threads through folklore and literature as a metaphorical statement for the dehumanization of man caused by the injustices, loss of spiritual connections, and alienation of the individual from others in the modern world.

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11. consider evidences of Expressionism in the two musicals, particularly Sweeney Todd.

To begin the study of Sweeney Todd, initiate a class discussion of the name "Sweeney." T.S.Eliot's poem, "Sweeney Among the Nightingales" could serve as a centerpiece of the discussion. Point out that Eliot wrote another Sweeney poem, "Sweeney Erect," and a drama, "Sweeney Agonistes." Encourage students to see that, through several historical and archetypal contrasts, Eliot characterizes Sweeney as a gross representative of modern human beings—one who is impotent in spirit, incapable of using violence to vent heroic passions. Note particularly the physical profile Eliot builds of Sweeney: "Apeneck," knees spread, arms hanging down, zebra stripes along his jaw, etc. All of these are "ape-like" characteristics.

In 10th, 11th, and 12th grade classes, consider initiating a discussion of the Freudian concept of the"id." Point out that Eliot's work has inculcated in Western consciousness the name "Sweeney" as being synonymous with one driven by his "id," projecting lustful, crude, primitive, and animal-like behavior.

Steve303 wrote:I think you're all reading far too much into it.
I'm not a big speed freak but I would agree with the earlier idea that it's all to do with cutting up the crystals. Good speed needs chopping so it seems pretty obvious to me that he wasn't thinking about poems when he wrote it. We all know how ill he made himself with the stuff.

MrChris wrote:Of course, the Sisters have released a reggae song...it's called Marian (version)...

In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.

(Women)
And the women come and go
(Talk)
Talking about me like they know

markfiend wrote:Right, I'm digging up old threads again, but I was just reading The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock and found this couplet: (lines 35 & 36)

In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.

Which is cleverly punned upon in this

(Women)
And the women come and go
(Talk)
Talking about me like they know

It has the same rhythm, the same 8-syllable last line, it even sounds similar.

eastmidswhizzkid wrote:in "a clockwork orange" one of the "miloko-plus" drinks available to alex and his droogs has "extra-knives"to"sharpen"one up.in my eperience this is the primary effect of taking me ol' favourite. smoking speed is mostly an inefficient method-i've been doing it for 20 years and snorting/eating it gives you the best "result to life expectancy"ratio(playing "pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey" is almost always a slippery slope IMHO;longterm needle freaks will disagree but sharing dirty works to jack-up water is by no means the lowest practise i've witnessed).

nick the stripper wrote:I also heard getting it in pill form is extremely hard because Speed is sold cut to very low purity, 5%-10%. Ecstasy is more expensive than Speed so dealers can charge more for an ecstasy pill than they could for Speed, so they sell Speed as fake ecstascy, is this true?