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Which incarnation do you prefer live?
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 12:44
by Big Si
Listening to various boots, I was just wondering which Sisters live sound do people prefer?
Early Sisters, Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth, Speed Kings or Intellectual Love Gods?
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 12:46
by Big Si
Gary Marx for Nine While Nine, and yes
Mr Huss at the Albert Hall on Knockin' on Heaven's Door
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 12:52
by ryan
agreed.. The whole albert hall thing was superb and the whole FALAA album...woo!!
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 13:25
by elguiri
actually 83-84 , by then they knew what they were doing and what they wanted to do and were getting rather good at playing live.Pick up any boot from these 2 years and you wont be let down.I might be wrong but by the time we got to 85 it was kind of "Sisters by Numbers" , you knew what was coming and what to expect.........
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 13:37
by mh
elguiri wrote:actually 83-84 , by then they knew what they were doing and what they wanted to do and were getting rather good at playing live.Pick up any boot from these 2 years and you wont be let down.I might be wrong but by the time we got to 85 it was kind of "Sisters by Numbers" , you knew what was coming and what to expect.........
Agreed.
This stuff had a certain indefinable something which got lost along with Gary Marx. Any 3 piece bootleg I've ever heard is droney and plodding.
Although the early 90s stuff is very good in it's own way, and 97/98 were smashing years too.
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 14:13
by Thrash Harry
The sound on Wake seems much better than when I saw them in October 84. Either Marx and Hussey couldn't play nicely together or Eldritch posthumously enhanced the sound on the video. Or maybe he just turned The Doktor down a bit. Or maybe I've just watched it too many times and it's grown on me.
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 14:20
by MrChris
There was more energy in 83/4 than 84/5, I guess. But for listening to in a not-very loud, I'm supposed to be working kind of way, it's got to be the highly melodic, glitch-free 1985.
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 15:33
by vicus
the 1990 incarnation plus mr. marx
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 16:23
by mayhem
I know it's out of fashion, and a trifle uncool..
But I like the current lot best.
A feast for ear and eye and no silly hats. Well, not since someone had a word with Whammy anyway.
M
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 21:16
by pikkrong
Gary Marx era
and the current gang
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 21:17
by pikkrong
mayhem wrote:
A feast for ear and eye and no silly hats.
Agree.
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 22:23
by James Blast
Difficult one, having lived with the pre Wake breakdown tunes for so long it really does feel like history. Floodland has been the zenith so far, but I hunger for more, new, professionally recorded studio material.
'Hope you like our new direction'
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 22:33
by mugabe
mh wrote:This stuff had a certain indefinable something which got lost along with Gary Marx. Any 3 piece bootleg I've ever heard is droney and plodding.
Although the early 90s stuff is very good in it's own way, and 97/98 were smashing years too.
I believe the Stockholm 1983 concert is with Marx only. Eldritch says something in the line of "We have a new guitarist, but he couldn't be with us tonight".
Posted: 10 Dec 2003, 23:32
by Big Si
mugabe wrote:mh wrote:This stuff had a certain indefinable something which got lost along with Gary Marx. Any 3 piece bootleg I've ever heard is droney and plodding.
Although the early 90s stuff is very good in it's own way, and 97/98 were smashing years too.
I believe the Stockholm 1983 concert is with Marx only. Eldritch says something in the line of "We have a new guitarist, but he couldn't be with us tonight".
I know Ben Gunn left before their US dates (in September so he could start his degree?
) so maybe they had Mr Huss by October but he didn't know the songs yet?
http://sisterstrading.com/Audio/1983.html
Posted: 11 Dec 2003, 00:07
by Quiff Boy
they had a guy called dave cover ben's guitar for a few gigs at the start of that us tour...
Posted: 11 Dec 2003, 00:12
by Big Si
Quiff Boy wrote:they had a guy called dave cover ben's guitar for a few gigs at the start of that us tour...
Thanks overlord!
Posted: 11 Dec 2003, 00:38
by Big Si
Sisters 1984 to me is almost like the Yardbirds in 1966 - Marx and Hussey vs Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck
How many bands get to have 2 supremely talented guitarists in their line up at the same time
(not forgetting the 'Smurph's' of course
)
Posted: 11 Dec 2003, 00:48
by Thrash Harry
Yes. But they sounded s**t. Believe me. I was there and wanted nothing more than them to sound the best. But they didn't. They just loitered around in the back trying to impress/ p*ss off each other. Not good.
Posted: 11 Dec 2003, 01:01
by Big Si
Thrash Harry wrote:Yes. But they sounded ****. Believe me. I was there and wanted nothing more than them to sound the best. But they didn't. They just loitered around in the back trying to impress/ p*ss off each other. Not good.
Sorry Thrash, I'm just going off what I've heard on my "boots", wish I had been old enough to be there!
Posted: 11 Dec 2003, 02:06
by Andy TG
The Incarnation with the "Real" Drummer
Posted: 11 Dec 2003, 02:31
by Thrash Harry
Big Si wrote:Thrash Harry wrote:Yes. But they sounded ****. Believe me. I was there and wanted nothing more than them to sound the best. But they didn't. They just loitered around in the back trying to impress/ p*ss off each other. Not good.
Sorry Thrash, I'm just going off what I've heard on my "boots", wish I had been old enough to be there!
Don't apologise to me, Big Man. Not having owned any, but I'm assuming boots don't lie. But you have to remember that when I saw them, First and Last hadn't even been released, so assuming this was the set list (you expect me to remember?):
From sisterstrading.com
Burn / Heartland / Marian / Walk Away / Body and Soul / No Time to Cry / Anaconda / Emma / A Rock and a Hard Place / Train / Floorshow / Alice / Body Electric / Gimme Shelter / Knockin' on Heaven's Door / Adrenochrome / Some Kind of Stranger (cut)
Looking at it again, I should have recognised a few before Emma, but I didn't, Floorshow and Alice of course, but they got half way into Body Electric, my bestest ever Sisters track, 84 of course, before I realised, then Gimme Shelter (always been a Stones fan, so no problems there) and then down hill from then on (culminating in the realisation that Adrenochrome was actually a Sisters song and not the Barron Knights taking the p*ss). Anyway. Where was I? Oh yes. At that Sisters gig, Leeds University, October 26 1984, not in the moshpit, sufferring from sciatica and stood well back, first and last and only live Sisters gig, been listening to Alice 12", Reptile House and Temple Of Love 12 " for the previous however long and lots of smoke a few lights where's the band and what's that throbbing noise in my head? Oh look. There's a couple of sexy birds in leathers with big hair. Take me home. Cup of tea. Prisoner Cell Block H. Put Reptile House on (why haven't they invented CDs yet then I wouldn't have to get up and turn the bastard over). Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. The time is gone the song is over, thought I'd something more to say...
Posted: 11 Dec 2003, 20:20
by JonnyDelphium
option 3, simply coz it was the first time I saw them and they were better than when I saw them about 2years ago
Posted: 11 Dec 2003, 20:51
by Angelchild
Black Horizon wrote:1984 - 1985: Mr Huss and Von's Dry Ice!
What line up could be any better?
Couldn't of put it better myself Horizon