Heartland

It's about shagging, right?

that was always my take on it too

Companion piece to SKOS really. And a damn good black joke at that, doing it so slow and plodding and funereal.

God, you know I am just too innocent. Not like you foul-minded thingies. You've ruined my appreciation of what I thought was a fine funeral dirge now. Ugh!

My opinion is the same as mh & QB.
It's fuelled a few thoughts regarding said opinion of song.
I can't comment on any experiences of doing said subject to the song though(boring person I am)

Erm, any *reason* it's about shagging, apart from the song name itself? As far as I can tell, the lyrics are pretty rubbish, really... or at least, very oblique. "On the bed tomorrow, mourning" doesn't exactly rank as the finest of Eldritch's puns..

Maybe it's a girls thing,especially so amongst us girls with a passion for ?
I like the lyrics a lot..just the whole mood of the song..erotic but melancholy.
I'm probly just a little unusual with some of my hang-up's anyway but I don't think it's the place for me to go into all that stuff

kafka wrote:Erm, any *reason* it's about shagging, apart from the song name itself?

"bury me deep inside"? not about shagging? with a cheap metaphor like that?

Well, that's what I mean - it's a little too obvious, and the lyrics themselves just come across as goth dross..

Presumably 'on the bed tomorrow, mourning' could be a reference to either the normal post-one-night-stand regrets, or to a really bad hangover. See, I can swim the depths too.

All of that and the fact the sex is referred to as "the little death" (serge gainsboro - i think - or jagues brel) so th eMourning works quite well...

Smart cookie was our Von, I say WAS cos i aint got a NEW ALBUM!!!

Git.

doktor wolf wrote:...sex is referred to as "the little death"...

See also "Melt" by Siouxsie & The Banshees.

Now, this is true, but also a much older idea than that. The French called it 'le petit mort', it's true, but it goes back to the 16th century at least, I think. You can find the idea in an elusive form in the poem The Flea:

THE FLEA.
by John Donne


MARK but this flea, and mark in this,
How little that which thou deniest me is ;
It suck'd me first, and now sucks thee,
And in this flea our two bloods mingled be.
Thou know'st that this cannot be said
A sin, nor shame, nor loss of maidenhead ;
Yet this enjoys before it woo,
And pamper'd swells with one blood made of two ;
And this, alas ! is more than we would do.

O stay, three lives in one flea spare,
Where we almost, yea, more than married are.
This flea is you and I, and this
Our marriage bed, and marriage temple is.
Though parents grudge, and you, we're met,
And cloister'd in these living walls of jet.
Though use make you apt to kill me,
Let not to that self-murder added be,
And sacrilege, three sins in killing three.

Cruel and sudden, hast thou since
Purpled thy nail in blood of innocence?
Wherein could this flea guilty be,
Except in that drop which it suck'd from thee?
Yet thou triumph'st, and say'st that thou
Find'st not thyself nor me the weaker now.
'Tis true ; then learn how false fears be ;
Just so much honour, when thou yield'st to me,
Will waste, as this flea's death took life from thee


This is worth posting, anyway, because it's the corniest argument for getting someone to sleep with you I've ever read. The gist is: Look, this flea has bitten you and me, so our blood is already mixed, and if you kill it, that's three deaths in one, so given all that blood under the bridge, and looking at the wider picture, can we shag now please?

MrChris - Superb!!!!!!!!!!!!....wonder how that will work at the office party i've got on Friday??

Ah, one of my favourite poems, that.. it's not corny at all - it's a lovely poem. The tone is just right - playful but serious - and the argument, and especially the way in which the argument progresses, is wonderful. It's not really saying "that's [water] under the bridge" - actually, one of the things I've always liked about the poem is that it demonstrates a kindness of thinking towards animals which is uncommon even today (although of course Donne still wants to shag her, at the end, despite her cruelty). Really, at the end he's not saying "it's blood under the bridge" but rather "you see what a minor deal it is? You don't feel yourself any the weaker, and nor would you if you submitted to my advances".

Anyhow, just rambling on because I'm a big fan of the poem, and of Donne (and Marvell, Herbert, etc.) in general.

Cheers,
--George

"In the broken temple bells"


so this is a tit w*nk then. Deep stuff

"In the ringing ..." presumably inspired by Jim Morrison's 'Back Door Man'.

Never realised was such an old pervy.

God, you lot are foul. What are you, Orcs?

'Followed and fell'. The inevitable physical response to the disappointment of only having second go, presumably. Blimey, Von is crude.

MrChris wrote:'Followed and fell'. The inevitable physical response to the disappointment of only having second go, presumably. Blimey, Von is crude.

Sloppy seconds! You're pure filth MrChris!

Groovy.

hahahaha, so there is someone as filthy as me. Should I be glad or shocked?

MrChris wrote:hahahaha, so there is someone as filthy as me. Should I be glad or shocked?

Afraid.

MrChris wrote:hahahaha, so there is someone as filthy as me. Should I be glad or shocked?

in the spoken in tongues
cover me over

Anyone for a BJ

Sorry to drag up this thread. I never thought it was about sex, but something just clicked to me.

The repetition of "bury me, in silence", might be a reference to Atmosphere by Joy Division, where "in silence" is used fairly often as well. The sound is fairly bleak in both songs too.

Ahem. Moving on.

@Dark:

mh wrote:It's about shagging, right?

yes