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Ceaseless Edits

Posted: 14 Jan 2004, 18:30
by Black Planet
I have been tasked with writing 3 sections of a report. Since mid December I have been going back and forth with comments from my supervisor. I sent the product to our editor, who sent it back with more comments for me to address. So this morning, I get the damn thing back, from my supervisor, who changed much of it back to the way he had it written.

He uses *however* far too much!

I am sick of this back and forth with the editing and fear I'm gonna snap right out on my supervisor!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: I'm fixing it back now, and dread the *next* review of what he's presumably happy with now.

What is wrong with some ppl? The way I see it if the editor fixes it, that's the end of it. She's going to get it again later anyway, and I know she will fix it back to the way she wants it.

:urff: :urff: :urff: :urff: :urff:

Ok my rant is over. But really, this one has pinched my last nerve!

Posted: 14 Jan 2004, 18:38
by mh
Some people just like to make amendments for the sake of making themselves feel self-important. Otherwise, what excuse would they have for retaining their job?

I would suggest asking the editor and your supervisor to have a yap with each other, since each is obviously unhappy with what the other wants to say, and stop using you as a go-between. It's also your supervisor's responsibility to care for your welfare within the workplace.

Don't worry about the rant, it's healthy to get it out of the system!!!

Posted: 14 Jan 2004, 21:28
by James Blast
mh wrote:Some people just like to make amendments for the sake of making themselves feel self-important.
I have to put up with these 'because I can change it' types 5 days a week :cry:
I think it's called the modern working environment :?:

Posted: 15 Jan 2004, 02:50
by Black Planet
Usually I don't have to put up with this s**t. That's why I'm so irritated.

That and.....the guy has to stand behind my desk rather close to me as he goes over each and every little change he wants me to type up. I hate that. I just effing hate that! Why can't he sit across the desk from me and explain it? Really just makes me see red.

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Yes, I am annoyed.

Posted: 15 Jan 2004, 10:57
by markfiend
Editors "Don't like the taste unless they've p!ssed in it" (approximate quote from R A Heinlein Stranger In A Strange Land)

Posted: 15 Jan 2004, 19:05
by Petseri
A colleague of mine used to have a supervisor who constantly would revise letters sent out of the office. After my colleague made the suggested revisions and showed it to his boss, the supervisor would suggest more alterations which matched the original draft. My coworker put an end to that quickly by keeping a copy of the original and the asking the boss bluntly which version he should mail out. The power abuse ended shortly thereafter.

Posted: 15 Jan 2004, 19:47
by Black Planet
Heeee'sss Baaack! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Here's a few words: You can not squeeze blood from a stone. You can not turn iron into gold, and you can't turn a sows ear into a silk purse!

When I originally wrote what I had to say it was factually accurate. Now after being continually tweeked it's not! One section has been dropped altogether and we're on tenuous ground on another. That's what happens when you are forced to work with staff that do not know how to determine why something went wrong!

Taking tomorrow afternoon off to have my nails done. Revenge is sweet. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Posted: 15 Jan 2004, 20:30
by Ganith
mh wrote:Some people just like to make amendments for the sake of making themselves feel self-important. Otherwise, what excuse would they have for retaining their job?
Later on, he'd say "I wrote..."

My boss does.

Ganith

Re: Ceaseless Edits

Posted: 15 Jan 2004, 21:30
by Gripper
Black Planet wrote:I have been tasked with writing 3 sections of a report. Since mid December I have been going back and forth with comments from my supervisor. I sent the product to our editor, who sent it back with more comments for me to address. So this morning, I get the damn thing back, from my supervisor, who changed much of it back to the way he had it written.

He uses *however* far too much!

I am sick of this back and forth with the editing and fear I'm gonna snap right out on my supervisor!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: I'm fixing it back now, and dread the *next* review of what he's presumably happy with now.

What is wrong with some ppl? The way I see it if the editor fixes it, that's the end of it. She's going to get it again later anyway, and I know she will fix it back to the way she wants it.

:urff: :urff: :urff: :urff: :urff:

Ok my rant is over. But really, this one has pinched my last nerve!

Don't you think this would read better if you considered writing it like this:

"In the course of my normal duties I have been cordially asked to compile a short paper. I have been supported on an ongoing basis in this by my line manager and editor, who together provide an impressive leadership team; however, I have been unable as yet to attain the extremely high standards they exemplify and demand. I am sure that further support will be forthcoming, despite the continued drain on my line manager's considerable patience."

I expect to receive your final draft on my desk first thing in the morning, in accordance with your job description.

Posted: 15 Jan 2004, 21:45
by Black Planet
@ Gripper

Smart Ass!!!! :evil: :twisted: :wink:

Posted: 15 Jan 2004, 21:47
by Gripper
Black Planet wrote:@ Gripper

Smart Ass!!!! :evil: :twisted: :wink:
My pleasure.

Posted: 15 Jan 2004, 21:55
by Erudite
I would go with keeping copies of all revisions - if only to cover your own ass when someone suddenly asks why you haven't done task b, c and d yet.

It depends how well you know/get on with said surpervisor (not very by the sound of it).

In the past, when there appears to be a power struggle or some form of one upmanship. I've always gone for telling my line manager that I'm not playing piggy in the middle and if he's got issues with his superior or co-worker he can sort it out himself. My time is acutally valuable.

Depends on the company, but as of yet no one has ever given me a verble warning, let alone a written one or actually sacked me...

Re: Ceaseless Edits

Posted: 15 Jan 2004, 22:05
by James Blast
Gripper wrote:I have been tasked with writing...
Can I use this letter Gripper? It will no doubt make my working life harder, but I would be one smug and selfrighteous bastid if I did :D:D:D:D

Re: Ceaseless Edits

Posted: 15 Jan 2004, 22:09
by Gripper
Red Sunsets wrote:
Gripper wrote:I have been tasked with writing...
Can I use this letter Gripper? It will no doubt make my working life harder, but I would be one smug and selfrighteous bastid if I did :D:D:D:D
Go for it.
Smug and self-righteous makes the world go round.

Posted: 15 Jan 2004, 22:26
by James Blast
Thankee :notworthy:

Posted: 16 Jan 2004, 00:30
by _emma_
Black Planet wrote: the guy has to stand behind my desk rather close to me as he goes over each and every little change he wants me to type up. I hate that. I just effing hate that! Why can't he sit across the desk from me and explain it? Really just makes me see red.

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Yes, I am annoyed.

I couldn't understand you more BP! I know many people who have this annoying habit of getting too close to me in everyday situations like this, and I really hate that too! I unvoluntarily lean aside as they approach. My breath gets shallow and quick. I freeze and turn to stone. I can feel barbed wire grow out of my body and wrap me around to protect me. I just can't wait for the person to step back, and only as they do I take a deep sigh of relief and the spikes retreat.
This obviously doesn't happen with the people I like. But strangers, far acquaintances, co-workers, etc. really shouldn't do that with me because I might kick and scratch one of them one day when my hormones are not in order! :evil:

Posted: 16 Jan 2004, 02:04
by Black Planet
Emma!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have captured to a T.. It's maddening. I am as polite as can be (well not really I get rather rude and defensive), but when he gets too close I go ballistic. I hate it. I don't know what to do or what to say. He does my evaluation! Mind you I have known him a long time, before I ever worked at this place and I think he's clueless, but I still do not know how to say...back off.... Hmmm must think over this.

Thanks for your comment. It's made me think about what I need to do to fix this. He's really a good supervisor. Other than this...thing!!

BP

Posted: 16 Jan 2004, 02:06
by Black Planet
Gripper wrote:
Black Planet wrote:@ Gripper

Smart Ass!!!! :evil: :twisted: :wink:
My pleasure.
Oh Just out to wind me up, Eh? Sorry that was the last time sweetie. :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

LoL LMAO

How does everyone like my new avatar?

I am in heaven!! He's to die for. Andrew,................. :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Posted: 16 Jan 2004, 05:42
by Mrs RicheyJames
He looks like a very rough Micheal Praed!He looks like a very rough Micheal Praed!

Posted: 16 Jan 2004, 11:20
by mugabe
Sexygoth wrote:He looks like a very rough Micheal Praed!He looks like a very rough Micheal Praed!
*jumps up and down*

Posted: 16 Jan 2004, 20:10
by James Blast
Sexygoth wrote:He looks like a very rough Micheal Praed!He looks like a very rough Micheal Praed!
I heard you the first time SG :lol:

Posted: 16 Jan 2004, 20:30
by Quiff Boy
Red Sunsets wrote:
Sexygoth wrote:He looks like a very rough Micheal Praed!He looks like a very rough Micheal Praed!
I heard you the first time SG :lol:
you can say that again ;)

Posted: 16 Jan 2004, 20:36
by Thrash Harry
_emma_ wrote:I unvoluntarily lean aside as they approach.
Aha! That's where you're going wrong! When you see him approach, you need to push your chair back from under your desk, fold your arms, lean back, stretch your legs out in his direction and make sure you move round as he tries to get behind you, looking at him all the time but keeping him a leg's distance away. That should do it. Alternatively, just elbow him in the balls.

Posted: 16 Jan 2004, 22:40
by _emma_
Thrash Harry wrote: Aha! That's where you're going wrong! When you see him approach, you need to push your chair back from under your desk, fold your arms, lean back, stretch your legs out in his direction and make sure you move round as he tries to get behind you, looking at him all the time but keeping him a leg's distance away. That should do it. Alternatively, just elbow him in the balls.

First of all this person doesn't necessarily have to have balls, because I react in the same way to females who approach me like that. :?
Anyway, thanks a lot for the advice, it sounds real good to me and I'll surely try to use it next time. :) By the way, it seems that you have some practical knowledge of that? :wink:

Posted: 17 Jan 2004, 11:30
by Thrash Harry
Yes. I used to have a female project manager who would get so close you could practically feel her body heat. I found it so offputting I could hardly concentrate on what she was saying and found myself agreeing to take on far too much work. Eventually, I had to resort to these tactics to defend my good name as a slacker.