Heartland

Yesterday i dug up the original version of Velvet Underground's Sister Ray, and was quite surprised at how "hippie" the song was...likeable, but distinctly hippie...rather like the Doors, who aren't all that bad but are most of the time a bit too hippiesh for me. (This proves nothing though, coz Stones' "Gimme Shelter" is also quite hippie but Sisters playing it, it sounds like original Sisters song.

And as luck would have it, today i received Rothenburg -98 gig (thanks to Tim), and read the review of it from Tours-site, and someone there suggested that Sisters covered rather Suicide's cover of Sister Ray, "Mr. Ray" or "Sister Ray Says". So, today i unearthed that one, and must say it bears more similarity with Sisters' version than VU's original. And i have a funny feeling Von was a Suicide fan?

Anyway, have the Sisters ever commented on Sister Ray where they got it from?

dei

wasn't ghostrider a suicide song?

ryan_w_0000 wrote:wasn't ghostrider a suicide song?

Yup. And didn't Von claim to have stolen his first pair of Aviators from Suicide's Alan Vega? (who later was, of course, in The Sisterhood...)

the liner notes of "some girls" mentions suicide in some way too just on memory

Ahh, i never knew that, but a quick look on the web revealed that indeed Suicide have a song called "Ghostrider". That song always baffled me, too, cause it was only once that, i forget which gig it was, either late -84 or -85, i noticed Sisters actually playing a riff that resembled a song called "Ghostriders" i know, and their version of it doesn't seem to have much in common with that riff/song at all. Well now at least there is a direct link with Sisters and Suicide.

dei

I have the Suicide CD (imaginatively titled "Suicide") that has Ghostrider on it. It is recognisably the same song, with the same riff (although done on keyboard) and similar drum-machine pattern.

would that be the same cd that contains the fantastic 'frankie teardrop'?

i can just here a sisters cover of that

i've read about a million insterviews with von where he describes his love of suicide. "and the stooges. everyone loves the stooges" was the usual follow-up.

its a pretty well documented thing

also read that the idea of the star behind the head on the MR logo was influenced by suicide's "red star" artwork from the first album (as was sigue sigue sputnik's star & SSS logo, and most of sputnik's career in fact!)

and joy division's live cover of sister ray (from "still") is amazing, no matter what anyone else says

seem to recall mr marx mentioning that the idea of doing sister ray came from JD too. not that von would ever admit that

Ooh. Thanks, Quiffy. i love Joy Division, but never got around to getting their live-stuff. Now that's changed, though.

dei

ryan_w_0000 wrote:would that be the same cd that contains the fantastic 'frankie teardrop'?

i can just here a sisters cover of that

That's the one!

markfiend wrote:I have the Suicide CD (imaginatively titled "Suicide")

What's the song title where I get name check?

Von has admitted to liking Joy Division's Atmosphere, of course. But who couldn't?

Johnny Boy wrote:What's the song title where I get name check?

The imaginatively titled "Johnny"

markfiend wrote:

Johnny Boy wrote:What's the song title where I get name check?

The imaginatively titled "Johnny"

Knew it was an, umm ...tricky title.

Of course JD's version pis*es all over the SOM version.
I'll get the proverbial.

When I taped Still, borrowed from a library (for home and personal use only) I left that one out. Found it rather repetative, wasn't it a full album side's length?

HYpnotic rather than repetetive James, surely?
I can't remember off hand if it is the entire side. I don't think so though.

Nah it ain't. It's about 7/8 mins of side 2, that's all. The VU's original is most of an entire side though.

And yeh - hypnotic, not repetitive, although I'm conditioned to accept both from listening to Spacemen 3.

Once you've heard Ecstacy Symphony MH nothing will ever be the same again. hee hee

If you've ever had the misfortune to hear Motorslug by Wiseblood (Jim Thirlwell and Roli Mossimann of Swans) you'll know what repitition really is.

Why has this been moved to trading?

Steve303 wrote:Why has this been moved to trading?

No it's been moved from trading.

markfiend wrote:

Steve303 wrote:Why has this been moved to trading?

No it's been moved from trading.

correct-a-mundo

Correction: Why am I so confused?