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Eldritch and Pink Floyd
Posted: 27 Mar 2004, 14:23
by Thrash Harry
When I rediscovered the Sisters a few years ago, I found out they'd covered Comfortably Numb. This got me thinking about their Pink Floyd influence. At the time, in the early 80s, I had assumed that, like most John Peel listeners, they considered them to be irrelevant has beens. A few derogatory comments had been made to back this up. But, I have always considered The Reptile House to be very Floydian, not so much the words and music, but structurally, the way it flows and hangs together as a complete work. And the use of the Reprise device is classic Floyd. And then, later, we have Flood I and II, echoes of Shine On You Crazy Diamond Parts 1 and 2 and Another Brick In The Wall Parts 1, 2 and 3. What do you think? Am I talking rubbish? It has been known.
Posted: 27 Mar 2004, 21:32
by James Blast
IMO Mr. E's vocal histrionics ruin it Harry
http://www.baldyslaphead.co.uk/Frame.html
Posted: 28 Mar 2004, 01:54
by ryan
Posted: 28 Mar 2004, 02:26
by James Blast
Jeez! sure I have photos just like that buried 'Dorian Grey' style in my attic
Posted: 28 Mar 2004, 03:48
by Thrash Harry
Red Sunsets wrote:ruin it
What? Comfortably Numb? Yes. Of course. But that's not what I'm getting at. Don't you think The Reptile House is very 'Concept Album'ish?
Posted: 28 Mar 2004, 05:55
by ryan
ive always considered the sisters to be very 'concep album'ish' with their releases. Ive always thought their inspiration for making a concept album came from 'ziggy stardust' rather then 'the wall' or 'DSOTM'. Perhaps a little of each?
Ive never considered looking at the reptile house as a concept album until now..ill give the vinyl another listen
Posted: 28 Mar 2004, 06:08
by Thrash Harry
Hey ryan, you're what, nearly 21 now, and you seem to like only bands that were there before you were even born. There must have been some worth listening to since then, surely. Don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking you, you clearly have very good taste, but you've got to have some contemporary heroes, no?
Posted: 28 Mar 2004, 06:15
by ryan
im nearly 18. i do like a few band that are around but yeah, i always find myself going back to the classics. Modern music doesnt do it for me. Mainly because its overproduced and theres a lack of ideas.
Posted: 28 Mar 2004, 06:44
by Thrash Harry
ryan_w_0000 wrote:im nearly 18
Yeah, sorry. Either I can't count or I'm in that drunk yourself sober limbo or I got confused between your join date and birthday. TFBSZ. BOING! I am gonna be in so much trouble when I can't get up to do the bit of DIY I've promised Mrs T...
Posted: 29 Mar 2004, 09:58
by markfiend
I think that they covered Comfortably Numb because it appealed to Von's sense of humour. A song about being unable to go onstage without chemical aids would be right up his street.
However, I've always thought that Floodland has definite shades of "concept album"; I hadn't thought of it in terms of Reptile House, but I think you're right. I think they are both to be seen each as a single piece (in movements if you will) with one defining artistic impulse.
Posted: 29 Mar 2004, 12:08
by Silver_Owl
Eldritch said something along the lines of (in The Andrew Eldritch presents...thing on American radio) he did dismiss Floyd but then realised how much he liked them. He chose See Emily Play on that show I believe.
Posted: 29 Mar 2004, 12:18
by jost 7
i would appreciate seeing a stronger influence of pink floyd to the sisters sound these days.....(and less motoerhead)
Posted: 29 Mar 2004, 16:24
by Lowrider
For years post-punk nobody could admit to having liked Pink Floyd and their ilk.
I've posted elsewhere that 'echoes' from the Meddle album sounds a lot like SKOS.
These days it doesn't do your crediblity any harm to say you always secretly liked the floyd.
LR
Posted: 30 Mar 2004, 13:50
by Black Biscuit
[quote] Hey ryan, you're what, nearly 21 now [quote]
Hey old-timer, you think that's bad? I post on an ice hockey forum and all the guys on that are like in the sixth grade. Ugghh!
As for other oldies-but-goodies such as our has-been selves and yesterday's rock bands, I will even admit to a fondness for The Eagles.
If you listen to their music you'll find that the Eagles, at least IMHO, blended mass-appeal middle-market rock with country music and did it with a success few others ever did. Country and Western never got bigger in Britain until those guys snuck in through the back door!
Posted: 30 Mar 2004, 14:06
by Black Biscuit
These days it doesn't do your crediblity any harm to say you always secretly liked the floyd.
--- yeah, even Kiss are considered cool again. But Kiss without Ace, hmm, I dunno...
Posted: 30 Mar 2004, 16:07
by Thrash Harry
Black Biscuit wrote:I will even admit to a fondness for The Eagles.
Yep. Hotel California is an absolutely classic album. And they'd already produced a very strong 'Greatest Hits' by then!
Posted: 30 Mar 2004, 16:44
by Black Biscuit
I'd often wondered if the lyric to Hotel California was about Los Angeles, but I recently heard that the lyric was specific to the Beverley Hills Hotel, the 5-star place housing the Polo Lounge. True?
Posted: 30 Mar 2004, 18:14
by James Blast
Sorry guys Hotel California is one track that is most definitely in my Room 101. I hate its cod reggae and naff lyrics.
Posted: 30 Mar 2004, 19:19
by Black Biscuit
Hotel Cali is not one of my fave Eagles tracks either, although I don't mind The Long Run's words.
Posted: 31 Mar 2004, 12:39
by Thrash Harry
Black Biscuit wrote:I'd often wondered if the lyric to Hotel California was about Los Angeles, but I recently heard that the lyric was specific to the Beverley Hills Hotel, the 5-star place housing the Polo Lounge. True?
No idea, I'm afraid. Never really been one for studying lyrics or influences.
Posted: 31 Mar 2004, 12:45
by Thrash Harry
Red Sunsets wrote:Sorry guys Hotel California is one track that is most definitely in my Room 101. I hate its cod reggae and naff lyrics.
I can't think of many pieces of music I'd stick in room 101. I can usually find something interesting in most things I've heard. I even liked Gareth Gates' version of Spirit In The Sky.
Posted: 31 Mar 2004, 17:47
by James Blast
Thrash Harry wrote:I even liked Gareth Gates' version of Spirit In The Sky.
Time to up the medication Thrash.
Posted: 31 Mar 2004, 21:25
by Andy TG
Black Biscuit wrote: Hey ryan, you're what, nearly 21 now
As for other oldies-but-goodies such as our has-been selves and yesterday's rock bands, I will even admit to a fondness for The Eagles.
@ BB - EBG's As Always
"The Eagles" also did "Journey Of the Sorcerer" which was used, re-recorded, remixed as the theme music for "The Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy"
Posted: 31 Mar 2004, 21:30
by James Blast
I knew that! Take It Easy, have a Tequilla Sunrise.
Radio 2 can seriously damage your ears.
Posted: 01 Apr 2004, 13:31
by Black Biscuit
In California during the time of Prohibition, Americans would have to drive down to Mexico to buy a drink. So they'd make a weekend of it. They'd make a beeline for Mexico on Friday afternoon and spend all weekend drinking Tequila.
Sunday night would tick over into the new day and they would drive back to Cali to be at work on Monday morning with the sunrise hurting their bleary, hungover eyes. Hence the name Tequila Sunrise.