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Blood Money

Posted: 05 May 2004, 22:38
by Electrochrome
Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this track? I like it a lot, full of menace and spare lyrics.

I always took the title and chorus (Blood Money) both ways--blood money being dirty money (acquired by spilling blood) or that blood WAS the money.

Whose hand holds blood money...
Kiss the ring...
Kiss the blade...

Bullet in the head...

Definitely more than a drug song...

Posted: 06 May 2004, 10:05
by markfiend
Maybe something about taking "Blood Money" (or dirty corporate bastard money) from WEA?

Posted: 06 May 2004, 19:35
by James Blast
The second in Mr. E's assassin trilogy?

cf. Home Of The Hitmen, Neverland (a fragment)

I'm sure there are many more...

Posted: 07 May 2004, 01:02
by Hojyuu-obi
Red Sunsets wrote:The second in Mr. E's assassin trilogy?

cf. Home Of The Hitmen, Neverland (a fragment)

I'm sure there are many more...
Neverland

How is that? :? Unless imagining our planet's entire population falling to the earth with enormous speed is an assassination I don't see that in Never Land ? :urff: :D



Blood Money

Is indeed about taking money from a big corporation i.e. WEA; pretty straight forward lyrics imho, well straight forward in a Von way that is :D

Posted: 07 May 2004, 11:46
by MrChris
Neverland ---- I never bought Von's explanation, which I think was a joke. I agree it's an assassination song, albeit an aborted one.

Posted: 07 May 2004, 13:35
by straylight
The hand on the gun and the ticket to Syria made me presume it was something to do with a hitman.

Posted: 07 May 2004, 13:39
by mh
HOTHM was a Marx song though, wasn't it???

Interesting thing about Blood Money is that, on the labels, the credits for it are in reverse order to what is normal. Take the 7" for example, you get on the A side: Eldritch / Hussey - Marx - Adams (or whatever), and on the B side: Hussey / Eldritch.

I've always read this as indicating that it meant Wayne actually wrote those lyrics (explaining the hackneyed aphorisms that kinda appear in them) and Von wrote the music. Which makes it strange that they did it live, though.

Posted: 07 May 2004, 18:18
by Electrochrome
MrChris wrote:Neverland ---- I never bought Von's explanation, which I think was a joke. I agree it's an assassination song, albeit an aborted one.
Neverland seems mostly autobiographical, not sure the other layers though.

The 'Syria' reference is explained on the 1959 website, else I can't figure out why he has a ticket there(!)

Face on the mirror - drug reference
Hand on the gun - another Von firearm reference, hand on the controls (of life and death)
Place in the sun - vacation?

Everything within reach, money and 'stuff', each and every call. I always assumed it was a statement on his career at that point. The Sisters were about to get big, and then ::poof:: the band just imploded. It was 'too much but never enough'. Von likes challenges, he needed something more than the excesses of touring.

And that last line: 'Tear it up and watch it fall'--isn't it eerie that they began to play this track live a couple of years ago? Is he trying to tell us something?

As for Blood Money, were they having so many problems with WEA in the mid-80s then? By that point at least? And now I'm intrigued--are those Hussey's lyrics, I somehow doubt it, but who knows...

Posted: 07 May 2004, 19:47
by kafka
I've often wondered whether "syria" was a terrible pun for "serie a"..

And I do like the fact that mixi.net has the lyrics as "I had monkey and stuff".. ;)

Blood Money's a bit rubbish, lyrically, isn't it? It doesn't seem fleshed out at all.. unless it's _supposed_ to be literally "splinters (of conversation) on the telephone).. but it's all very proto-Sisters.. the good stuff was yet to come.

Posted: 07 May 2004, 21:23
by Hojyuu-obi
MrChris wrote:Neverland ---- I never bought Von's explanation, which I think was a joke. I agree it's an assassination song, albeit an aborted one.
Could be. But it's an intruiging idea nevertheless. Any idea which interview Von's "explanation" is from?

Imho the song is an impression of a night spent in a(n) (altered) state of mind with reflections on killing/ destruction and (more) drugs (could be Afterhours part2 now I think of it, but more violent)

In short Von searching his inner most dictator self. :von: :lol:

Posted: 07 May 2004, 22:14
by James Blast
@kafka sorry, Blood Money is one of my all time most very favourite songs.
And the Dublin '97 version Petseri has offered on the weeding thread, contains a fine take on it.

Posted: 07 May 2004, 22:19
by Hojyuu-obi
Red Sunsets wrote:@kafka sorry, Blood Money is one of my all time most very favourite songs.
And the Dublin '97 version Petseri has offered on the weeding thread, contains a fine take on it.
It's one of the better b-sides of '84-'85 imho, that being said it doesn't "deserve" to have been added to FALAA.

I never heard that '97 version, anything specifically different to the song (I hope not in a modern First & Last kind of way, which they totally butchered imo).

Posted: 07 May 2004, 22:24
by Hojyuu-obi
Electrochrome wrote: As for Blood Money, were they having so many problems with WEA in the mid-80s then? By that point at least? And now I'm intrigued--are those Hussey's lyrics, I somehow doubt it, but who knows...
I think it's the classic fans/general perception-feel(s)-that-they-sold-out-by-signing-to-a-major story. The band probably felt that way too at a certain point :?

Posted: 07 May 2004, 22:45
by Thrash Harry
Hojyuu-obi wrote:I think it's the classic fans/general perception-feel(s)-that-they-sold-out-by-signing-to-a-major story. The band probably felt that way too at a certain point
Most noticeably the absence of the word 'Amphetamine' on the track listing on the back of First and Last.

Posted: 07 May 2004, 23:36
by James Blast
Thrash Harry wrote:Most noticeably the absence of the word 'Amphetamine' on the track listing on the back of First and Last.
Some days you eat the bear, other days the bear eats you.

Posted: 07 May 2004, 23:40
by Hojyuu-obi
Red Sunsets wrote:
Thrash Harry wrote:Most noticeably the absence of the word 'Amphetamine' on the track listing on the back of First and Last.
Some days you eat the bear, other days the bear eats you.
Homo Homini Lupus

Posted: 07 May 2004, 23:41
by Izzy HaveMercy
Hojyuu-obi wrote:
Red Sunsets wrote:
Thrash Harry wrote:Most noticeably the absence of the word 'Amphetamine' on the track listing on the back of First and Last.
Some days you eat the bear, other days the bear eats you.
Homo Homini Lupus
Veni, Vidi, Vimto.


IZ.

Posted: 07 May 2004, 23:55
by Thrash Harry
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:
Hojyuu-obi wrote:
Red Sunsets wrote: Some days you eat the bear, other days the bear eats you.
Homo Homini Lupus
Veni, Vidi, Vimto.
:lol:

Posted: 08 May 2004, 00:01
by Hojyuu-obi
I was showing off too much wasn't I :oops:

http://www.nicholsplc.co.uk/hist/vimhist.htm

Posted: 08 May 2004, 00:13
by Izzy HaveMercy
As far as my history knowledge goes, the first attempt at a genetically modified soft drink :roll:


IZ.

Posted: 08 May 2004, 15:31
by Quiff Boy
Hojyuu-obi wrote:
Red Sunsets wrote:
Thrash Harry wrote:Most noticeably the absence of the word 'Amphetamine' on the track listing on the back of First and Last.
Some days you eat the bear, other days the bear eats you.
Homo Homini Lupus
penii surrendii afid

Posted: 08 May 2004, 16:20
by Hojyuu-obi
Quiff Boy wrote:
Hojyuu-obi wrote:
Red Sunsets wrote: Some days you eat the bear, other days the bear eats you.
Homo Homini Lupus
penii surrendii afid
What does that mean ?

Posted: 08 May 2004, 16:23
by Hojyuu-obi
or do you mean penii suspendi afix

Posted: 08 May 2004, 16:23
by Quiff Boy
Hojyuu-obi wrote:
Quiff Boy wrote:
Hojyuu-obi wrote: Homo Homini Lupus
penii surrendii afid
What does that mean ?
i gather it translates as something like "give your penis to the greenfly" ;D

Posted: 08 May 2004, 16:25
by Hojyuu-obi
Quiff Boy wrote:
Hojyuu-obi wrote:
Quiff Boy wrote: penii surrendii afid
What does that mean ?
i gather it translates as something like "give your penis to the greenfly" ;D
Ok, I thought you were 'chopping' of things :urff: ;D