Heartland

I am just completing my singles collection... Today I received Doctor Jeep and I am delighted (as usual) with such a great tune. I don't understand why this was one of the most underestimated ones. I even love the video!!!!!! Anyway, let me know your point of view!

I'd say this: When I first heard it, I was like "what's this shit fake poodle-rock track doing on a Sisters album?"

It took me quite a while to get the joke.

I think I still don't get it....

love the 12" version - it does very similar things to the 12" of lucretia - ie: interstellar guitars weaving in & out of the mix. lovely.

but the 7" does away with all that and as a result seems a pointless excercise to me

Quiff Boy wrote:
...but the 7" does away with all that and as a result seems a pointless excercise to me

agreed. the 7" mix just butchers the song.

for the record, though, Dr. Jeep was always one of my favourite Sisters Songs.
the first Sisters album I bought was A Slight Case of Overbombing; And it was 'Temple of Love' (1992) and 'Dr. Jeep' that instantly stood out as the album's killer tracks.

I don't know if anyone will agree, but I felt the Sisters lost some individuality with the Vision Thing album overall. The album's sound was a predictable or 'acceptable' blend of guitar/rock sounds and riffs. Earlier recordings were more distinctive and unique.

Black Biscuit wrote:I don't know if anyone will agree, but I felt the Sisters lost some individuality with the Vision Thing album overall. The album's sound was a predictable or 'acceptable' blend of guitar/rock sounds and riffs. Earlier recordings were more distinctive and unique.

Yes.

Nah, the riffage is quality par excellence and I reckon this is more to do with the input of Bruhn at this point in time..

As for Vision Thing being more 'generic', not really... It still stands out compared to 90% of what could be considered alt-rock.. Hell, remember peeps, five years had passed since Floodland and the world was a different place.. The album pretty much fitted in with the times and frankly had the sound of Floodland continued I reckon it would have seemed a tad out of date...

In regard to it being acceptable, nah, the production is such that it overrides preconceptions like that, the defining moment of it all is Ribbons IMO, the production on which is hot!

Well, yeah, Ribbons, goes without saying really.

I really think vision thing is a masterpiece...at first, yes, it sounds too much like classical hard rock...but so many layers, not only in the lyrics, in the music too....

i always thought it lacked the balls to cut it as a hard rock album.

the guitars are too compressed and the drums not crash-bash enough.

bit wimpy compared to yer average b.f.o. metal album...

I like it but it has a "strange" fealing about it ....
maybe you know what I mean. I realy have to be in the mood to put it on.

it took me years to finally appreciate Vision Thing, maybe it's just absence making the heart grow fonder

because I never heard about the sisters untill they stopped making records I heard all records as it would be one.
I had a little trouble with Floodland, first I didn't get it but these days its the best record I own.

James Blast wrote:it took me years to finally appreciate Vision Thing, maybe it's just absence making the heart grow fonder

yeah, i've had a similar experience. i actually like it now but didnt at the time.

still dont think it cuts it (in terms of sound & production) as a guitar-based rock album though

Quiff Boy wrote:still dont think it cuts it (in terms of sound & production) as a guitar-based rock album though

that it doesn't, UFO could have 'em for breakfast

I was listening to the Crystal Palace show and I thought it would have been nice if that line-up had re-recorded some Sisters classics in a harder way. Some people think the 97 line-up was the hardest rocking, but for me they were as hard as fcuk back in 93.

DGP00666 wrote:I was listening to the Crystal Palace show and I thought it would have been nice if that line-up had re-recorded some Sisters classics in a harder way. Some people think the 97 line-up was the hardest rocking, but for me they were as hard as fcuk back in 93.

Yeah, I recall the Crystal Palace gig being very raw and stripped down.
Though I would say I didn't care for it at the time.

Quiff Boy wrote:love the 12" version - it does very similar things to the 12" of lucretia - ie: interstellar guitars weaving in & out of the mix. lovely.

but the 7" does away with all that and as a result seems a pointless excercise to me

I tend to agree about the extended version. Initially I was ambivalent about it. A longer version of a track -- why bother? Then the hook at the end came and I planted in the "like" column of tracks. It may not be a top pick of mine, but I do appreciate it nonetheless.

Martin

DGP00666 wrote:I was listening to the Crystal Palace show and I thought it would have been nice if that line-up had re-recorded some Sisters classics in a harder way. Some people think the 97 line-up was the hardest rocking, but for me they were as hard as fcuk back in 93.

I love the version of Floorshow from that show. It has BALLS

Spiggy's hat wrote:

DGP00666 wrote:I was listening to the Crystal Palace show and I thought it would have been nice if that line-up had re-recorded some Sisters classics in a harder way. Some people think the 97 line-up was the hardest rocking, but for me they were as hard as fcuk back in 93.

I love the version of Floorshow from that show. It has BALLS

That could be because the type of person it was about were there in force...

'there's some very funny people here, I hope you're not with me. Did I invite you? I think not' or words to that effect. ( this is from memory of that day, not an extensive bootleg collection)

Gottdammerung wrote: As for Vision Thing being more 'generic', not really... It still stands out compared to 90% of what could be considered alt-rock.. Hell, remember peeps, five years had passed since Floodland and the world was a different place.. The album pretty much fitted in with the times and frankly had the sound of Floodland continued I reckon it would have seemed a tad out of date...

--- I also think Vision Thing was an album that could in no way be considered 'goth' music. If goths were listening to it, then or now, I don't know why. I could understand them listening to anything up to and perhaps including Floodland and Gift.

Black Biscuit wrote:I don't know if anyone will agree, but I felt the Sisters lost some individuality with the Vision Thing album overall. The album's sound was a predictable or 'acceptable' blend of guitar/rock sounds and riffs. Earlier recordings were more distinctive and unique.

--- Perhaps Vision Thing seemed more commercially-oriented in a hard rock sort of way more than any of the Sisters' other stuff. Which album would you say was the most commercial of all? Floodland had a few monster hits, but Eldritch was always the dark horse in the charts.

I remember a mate at school bought Vision Thing before I did. When I asked him if it was good he said something like "It's their best album but it doesn't have their best songs on it". By which I think he meant that the songs on it were more consistently good than FALAA or Floodland, whereas the other 2 albums had a split of some absolutely classic tracks, and some more average tunes.

Still not sure I agree, but it's an interesting point of view.

straylight wrote:

Spiggy's hat wrote:

DGP00666 wrote:I was listening to the Crystal Palace show and I thought it would have been nice if that line-up had re-recorded some Sisters classics in a harder way. Some people think the 97 line-up was the hardest rocking, but for me they were as hard as fcuk back in 93.

I love the version of Floorshow from that show. It has BALLS

That could be because the type of person it was about were there in force...

CP were my first Sisters gig. I remember the lass in her wedding dress....