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Johnny Ramone dead...

Posted: 16 Sep 2004, 14:04
by claws
He died yesterday. Can we expect an update on the TSOM homepage because of this? (and get a proof that AE is alive)

Posted: 16 Sep 2004, 14:16
by markfiend

Posted: 16 Sep 2004, 14:20
by Loki
I sure Claws saw that. I read his/her message as to whether the sad demise of Mr Ramone will prompt Von to write something on the website which is why this thread is in Sisters Chat. :von:

Far left, third emoticon down. :wink:

Posted: 16 Sep 2004, 15:11
by markfiend
JB wrote:Far left, third emoticon down. :wink:
Or even this one... Image

Too Tough To Die

Posted: 16 Sep 2004, 15:23
by DGP00666
Miserable life... he was the one the song "TOO TOUGH TO DIE" talked about. I just can't believe that we have lost three original Ramones so far. Sad, very sad indeed. Now the best thing we can do is to play "It's alive" as loud as we can.

Posted: 16 Sep 2004, 20:24
by claws
yes, JB. My post was Sisters related, so it goes in the "Sisters Chat" part of the forum.

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 09:56
by Loki
Nice to see that last nights London Evening Standard ang this mornings Daily express both gave full page coverage to the sad news. :von:

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 09:59
by markfiend
Sorry @ Claws...

The news was also on BBC's 6 o'clock last night, together with a short clip of The Ramones on Old Grey Whistle Test.

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 09:59
by Loki
claws wrote:yes, JB. My post was Sisters related, so it goes in the "Sisters Chat" part of the forum.
I know. Marky Markfiend is just a bit too fast on the clicky sometimes. And an idiot. :innocent:

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 10:08
by hallucienate
JB wrote:
claws wrote:yes, JB. My post was Sisters related, so it goes in the "Sisters Chat" part of the forum.
I know. Marky Markfiend is just a bit too fast on the clicky sometimes. And an idiot. :innocent:
and a mac user. :roll:

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 10:10
by Loki
hallucienate wrote:
JB wrote:
claws wrote:yes, JB. My post was Sisters related, so it goes in the "Sisters Chat" part of the forum.
I know. Marky Markfiend is just a bit too fast on the clicky sometimes. And an idiot. :innocent:
and a mac user. :roll:
Aaah, so mac user is an anagram of idiot. Now I understand. Thanks. :wink:

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 10:18
by hallucienate
JB wrote:
hallucienate wrote:
JB wrote: I know. Marky Markfiend is just a bit too fast on the clicky sometimes. And an idiot. :innocent:
and a mac user. :roll:
Aaah, so mac user is an anagram of idiot. Now I understand. Thanks. :wink:
I never said that, I just pointed out that he uses a bloody idiotic OS (that is Operating System, JB).

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 10:36
by markfiend
Oi!

(response copyright SexyGoth. Used without permission ;))

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 13:19
by Black Biscuit
Yeah, pretty sad. But always remember, folks, death is a choice we make when we have nowhere else to go. We each decide that time for ourselves.

The greatest amount of energy in life comes from taking care of your body physically, and having a path or m*****n.

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 13:21
by Black Biscuit
Uh, sort of, like, Where there is no vision, the people perish.

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 13:25
by markfiend
Black Biscuit wrote:Yeah, pretty sad. But always remember, folks, death is a choice we make when we have nowhere else to go. We each decide that time for ourselves.

The greatest amount of energy in life comes from taking care of your body physically, and having a path or m*****n.
I'm sorry but that is just mawkish sentimental bullshit. Do the thousands of people dying today in the Sudan "decide the time for themselves"? Do the people dying in suicide bomb attacks in Palestine/Israel? Do the (fill in thousands more examples)? I think not.

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 13:34
by Quiff Boy
"According to his publicist, Ramone died in his sleep Wednesday afternoon at his Los Angeles home, surrounded by family and friends. He had battled prostate cancer for five years, and had been hospitalized in June at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center."

not sure dying from prostate cancer is exactly a choice :urff:

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 14:01
by Black Biscuit
If the will to survive is not strong enough, see ya later.

Some nice SoCal books on healing illness with the power of the mind would've done the trick. Try Brandon Bay's book.

There's nothing mawkish or sentimental or s**t about me. Certainly nothing sentimental.

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 14:05
by markfiend
Yeah it's that easy isn't it? Think positive thoughts and wear an orange jump-suit and everything will be OK? :roll:

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 14:11
by Black Biscuit
markfiend wrote:Yeah it's that easy isn't it? Think positive thoughts and wear an orange jump-suit and everything will be OK? :roll:

---- You sure are a Sisters fan, aren't you?

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 14:28
by markfiend
Black Biscuit wrote:
markfiend wrote:Yeah it's that easy isn't it? Think positive thoughts and wear an orange jump-suit and everything will be OK? :roll:

---- You sure are a Sisters fan, aren't you?
Yup ;D

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 14:36
by Quiff Boy
:lol:

orange jump-suit?

Image

;)

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 14:37
by Quiff Boy

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 14:51
by Loki
Hmm, interesting debate.

Three years ago I left work early as I was feeling unwell. As I travelled home on the train I began to feel really ill. Stomach pains, sweats and shakes. I stood in the vestibule area between the carriages as it was too painful to sit still and basically stared at the wall. I had an overwhelming urge to just lie down on the floor but I firmly believed that if I did I would die.

Mrs JB was waiting for me with the car ready to whisk me off to A&E and it was the thought of her and my kids that kept me going. It was only after my first shot of morphine at hospital that I allowed myself to relax.

With no previous symptoms I'd suffered a perforated duodenal ulcer. My consultant informed me that with the toxic shock and peronititis I should be dead.

So, do I believe in the will to survive? I most certainly do.

Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 15:22
by markfiend
:eek: I don't really know what to say to that John!

I guess that the "will to survive" can have an effect. It's just that having lost family members to cancer, it annoys me that someone can say this:
Death is a choice we make when we have nowhere else to go. We each decide that time for ourselves.
It's pretty hard for someone to decide not to die with multiple metastasizing tumours throughout their whole body. OK they might hold it off for a month or two longer than otherwise, but it's going to kill them whatever they "decide".