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Does anyone know if any set-top DVD recorders also have CD recording functionality?
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I'm not sure but I think they don't. I haven't ever seen anything on the web that suggest they can (FAQ's etc...)
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Oh well. Just a standalone CD recorder it is then. :|
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Unless there's an easy way to extract the audio from a ripped DVD onto a CD? But that probably involves compressed audio doesn't it? Bah.
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That would probably depend on what's on the DVD (?)
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Well, I was thinking that rather than buying a CD-recorder and a DVD-recorder (both standalone boxes) I could maybe just use a DVD recorder to do both jobs somehow. Then rip the audio onto the computer here to burn CDs from.
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I am fairly certain that stand alone DVD recorders cannot copy audio CD's, for what it is worth, I had a Pioneer PDR509 stand alone CD recorder and it is a fine machine that has been superceded by the PDR609.
Please bear in mind that these CD recorders do not accept computer CDRs to record onto but audio only CDRs.
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solitude wrote: bear in mind that these CD recorders do not accept computer CDRs to record onto but audio only CDRs.
Oh. I didn't know that. :eek: Thanks for the heads-up.

I guess I could record onto an audio CD-RW and then make computer CDR copies. Too much faffing about isn't it? I'll just stick with plugging my computer into my hi-fi for copying tapes to CD and get myself a DVD recorder then. *sigh*
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solitude wrote: bear in mind that these CD recorders do not accept computer CDRs to record onto but audio only CDRs.
Put the audio-cd in the machine, let it read it, open the drawer manually and replace the cd with a cd-r, push the cd back in and bobs your uncle. (There's a similar trick for turning a 75 min minidisc into an 80 min one).

Of course the cd's for stand-alone cd recorders have dropped in price since people had to use that trick and they're around the same price as cd-r's so people don't have to resort to that trick any more.
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:eek: that's worth knowing :notworthy:

How do you turn a 75min MD into an 80min one then? :innocent:
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It's quite complicated and there's different methods for different models (plus some can't do to at all). What you're actually doing is cloning the table of contents from an already full md onto another one (this is also useful for recovering stuff from discs where the contents have been erased but not recorded over), so you need an 80 min md that's got something recorded on it (continuously in one track so it's not fragmented from re-records and deletions and stuff.)

Basically it involves putting in the full md, putting the md player into test mode, ejecting the md, putting the other md in, making a change to the contents (a cut will do) and then ejecting the disc to write the new toc.

If you google for minidisc toc cloning procedure there's loads of pages about it.
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Oooh cool I'll give that a go :notworthy:
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Dan wrote:Put the audio-cd in the machine, let it read it, open the drawer manually and replace the cd with a cd-r, push the cd back in and bobs your uncle.
The 'swap trick' works with some of the early (pre-'98 ) machines, but the manufacturers soon wised up and fixed it so that only audio blanks will work. The price of the discs have come down in recent years though - Big Pockets are currently selling them in spindles of 100 for £13 + postage.
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Scardwel wrote:
Dan wrote:Put the audio-cd in the machine, let it read it, open the drawer manually and replace the cd with a cd-r, push the cd back in and bobs your uncle.
The 'swap trick' works with some of the early (pre-'98 ) machines, but the manufacturers soon wised up and fixed it so that only audio blanks will work. The price of the discs have come down in recent years though - Big Pockets are currently selling them in spindles of 100 for £13 + postage.
Cheers for the info Mr. Scardwel :wink: Nice to know someone else apart from R*ch*r Sounds sell the blimmin' things :D

Not that they're selling them at the moment :evil: (grumble, grumble)
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They are selling 'em. Try looking in the audio section! (bottom of page) :wink:

http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/cat.php?sea ... 665a485294
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No, sorry I meant R*ch*er Sounds aren't flogging 'em :oops:

Have just this minute ordered some off t'site you mentioned :D
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