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new toy ... er... much-needed soundcard

Posted: 27 Oct 2004, 21:24
by lazarus corporation
I've got to get myself a new soundcard for my PC that can handle Logic (desktop line inputs for guitars etc, midi in, phantom power for a mic would be great). My current soundcard is a pile of crap and can't even play an mp3 without falling over (OK, an exageration, but...). My budget is £100-£200.

I spotted a Tascam US-122 on Ebay which looks like it should do the job (spec here: http://www.dv247.com/invt/16189) and placed a preliminary bid - anyone got any experience of one of these?

Any other recommendations?

Posted: 27 Oct 2004, 22:10
by Quiff Boy
i have an m-audio "audiophile 2496" which is pretty sweet... has good asio drivers thus zero latency, and handles all the usual gubbins you're likely to need.

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_gb/A ... -main.html

i run cubase sx with a shed load of vst plugins and apart from my poor old pc groaning under the pressure now and again, the sound card handles it all just dandy 8)

and they've come down in price too! 69 quid now :o :urff:

but if you can afford a bit more then i'd go for a delta 1010LT

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_gb/D ... -main.html

a freind of mine has the full version of the 1010 - with the "breakout box" - and he swears by it...

Posted: 27 Oct 2004, 22:12
by James Blast
I gotta Mac :D

Posted: 27 Oct 2004, 22:13
by Quiff Boy
James Blast wrote:I gotta Mac :D
you can use m-audio cards in macs ;D

Posted: 27 Oct 2004, 22:17
by James Blast
oops! :oops:

Posted: 27 Oct 2004, 22:32
by Quiff Boy
James Blast wrote:oops! :oops:
:lol:

and to be honest macs tend to be regarded as better platforms for doing audio stuff :roll: ;D

i gather the main reason is that their internal clock is more accurate and the PC's (but not as good as the old atari ST's)

Posted: 27 Oct 2004, 22:38
by James Blast
Quiff Boy wrote:i gather the main reason is that their internal clock is more accurate and the PC's (but not as good as the old atari ST's)
Geek! :twisted:

Posted: 27 Oct 2004, 22:53
by CellThree
You can pick up a Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro for around 150-170 quid. It has an external box thing that acts as a preamp and has :

2 x Firewire
3 x Line In/Microphone
1 x Headphone
1 x Optical In
1 x Optical Out
1 x Midi In/Midi Out
1 x SPDIF
1 x Digital Out

as well as 7.1 surround, EAX 4, 24bit, THX yadda yadda yadda.

Works for me!

Posted: 28 Oct 2004, 18:09
by lazarus corporation
having carefully studied the relevant stats, compared benchmark studies and ran some complicated self-coded value-analysis comparisons, I have decided to buy the Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro because it's bigger and shinier.

Posted: 28 Oct 2004, 19:31
by James Blast
this is even bigger and shinier in a brushed aluminum (American spelling) kinda way

Image

Posted: 28 Oct 2004, 19:40
by lazarus corporation
the latest Mac:

Image

:lol:

On further investigation I just read a review of the Creative Labs Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro which says it's great for games and listening to CDs, but crap for multi-track audio recording stuff like Logic. Now I'm all undecided again.

:(

Posted: 28 Oct 2004, 19:44
by Quiff Boy
whatever card you choose, you need to shoose one with decent asio drivers. the windows MME ones are useless for music - for example when recording midi music you'll get a 5 second lag between pressing the note and hearing the sound :urff:

i must admit that i'm biased toward m-audio cards, but i read the specs of the one you mentioned initially and it looks cool 8)

still, the m-audio "audiophile 2496" at 70 quid has to be a bargain - i paid about 130 for mine! ;)

Posted: 28 Oct 2004, 19:50
by lazarus corporation
I'll check them out, but I do like the idea of having a box on my desk to stick jacks into, rather than grubbing around on my hands and knees behind the PC.

I've got time to decide, though - I need to sell my Korg D8 (complete with user manual and power supply. Internal 1.4 GB hard disk. Full working order. £200 ono) first to fund it.

Posted: 28 Oct 2004, 19:52
by James Blast
lazarus corporation wrote:the latest Mac:
:lol:
at least it'll run this...

Image :notworthy:

Posted: 28 Oct 2004, 19:54
by Quiff Boy
there's a standalone usb version of the audiophile i think... might be a tad more than the internal one though :?:

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=pro ... interfaces

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_gb/A ... focus.html

Posted: 28 Oct 2004, 21:39
by Izzy HaveMercy
Quiff Boy wrote:there's a standalone usb version of the audiophile i think... might be a tad more than the internal one though :?:

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=pro ... interfaces

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_gb/A ... focus.html

Never use USB together with serious audio recording ;-)

Use the m-audio 410 Firewire or the lil' brother I have (mind the last one, has NO jack inputs, only RCA!)


And these cards do NOT compare at all with this SoundBlaster crap ;-)

As Quiffy said, this gem has zero latency and full control over mixing and stuff... Really the best buy I ever did for my laptop PC.


IZ.

Posted: 28 Oct 2004, 21:42
by James Blast
I'll get me coat...