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DVD recorder reccommendations.

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 12:07
by Spiggy's hat
I'm ready to buy a dvd recorder & could do with a bit of advice. I have been told to go for a machine that records in a dvdr-r format not dvd+r as most players are dvd- compatible. Is this the case.Is this a VHS v Betamax situation?

Can anyone that has already bought one offer any advice.

It's basically to transfer loads of VHS stuff onto dvd, I will still burn dvd to dvd on a pc.

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 12:48
by markfiend
If you're copying DVDs on your computer it shouldn't matter which format the recorder uses should it? You can play back your originals on the DVD recorder, and your puter should be able to copy DVD-R to DVD+R or vice-versa.

Although I don't (yet) own a DVD recorder, so what do I know? :lol:

Re: DVD recorder reccommendations.

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 15:24
by DerekR
Spiggy's hat wrote:I'm ready to buy a dvd recorder & could do with a bit of advice. I have been told to go for a machine that records in a dvdr-r format not dvd+r as most players are dvd- compatible. Is this the case.Is this a VHS v Betamax situation?

Can anyone that has already bought one offer any advice.

It's basically to transfer loads of VHS stuff onto dvd, I will still burn dvd to dvd on a pc.
Whatever you buy make sure it has a Panasonic or Pioneer badge on the front. Don't touch Philips with a bargepole.

Best bet is to use rewriteables (or DVD-RAM in the case of the Panasonic) then copy to DVD-R using the PC then you can re-use the rewriteables over and over (keep them in good nick though as these machines tend to be very fussy about light scratches etc). The Panasonic machines allow basic editing if you use DVD-RAM discs. I'm planning to buy one of these very soon to replace the Philips machine I foolishly bought a couple of years ago.

Or if you are feeling really adventurous, record to DVD-RW, (or DVD-RAM), decrypt the disc to mpeg on the PC, get a hold of some decent DVD authoring software and use this to make fancy menus, chapters, etc, and burn the finished product to DVD-R. I do this on occasion (ie when I can be bothered). Time consuming but worth it.

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 15:28
by hallucienate
just out of interest, how do stand alones handle recording onto dual layer disks?

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 15:32
by DerekR
hallucienate wrote:just out of interest, how do stand alones handle recording onto dual layer disks?
They don't. The current models anyway. The next generation machines should though.

As far as I know anyway......I haven't really been keeping up as I bought my machine so long ago.

Re: DVD recorder reccommendations.

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 15:35
by Quiff Boy
DerekR wrote:Or if you are feeling really adventurous, record to DVD-RW, (or DVD-RAM), decrypt the disc to mpeg on the PC, get a hold of some decent DVD authoring software and use this to make fancy menus, chapters, etc, and burn the finished product to DVD-R. I do this on occasion (ie when I can be bothered). Time consuming but worth it.
i've thought about doing just that :)

but isnt mpeg a lossy compression format? so when you convert it onto your pc it loses quality? :|

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 15:40
by markfiend
DVD is already compressed as mpeg isn't it?

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 15:47
by Spiggy's hat
Cheers for the replies.

Just went out to buy one from Index, but they were out of stock :x According to them, dvdr's will be selling like hot cakes between now & christmas.

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 15:51
by DerekR
markfiend wrote:DVD is already compressed as mpeg isn't it?
Yep, and the quality is selected on the DVD recorder prior to recording.

@QB, I haven't noticed any quality loss when doing the ripping on the PC.

For authoring I would recommend Ulead DVD Workshop 2, relatively intuitive when you compare it to some of the more complicated authoring packages, and it does everything I want. Still haven't mastered animated menus yet though :? One day, one day....

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 15:54
by Quiff Boy
DerekR wrote:Still haven't mastered animated menus yet though :? One day, one day....
enter jansenclone.... :von: ;D

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 16:06
by Loki
Quiff Boy wrote:
DerekR wrote:Still haven't mastered animated menus yet though :? One day, one day....
enter jansenclone.... :von: ;D
Indeed. :notworthy: Men with ridiculously big hair and far too much lipstick. 8)

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 16:11
by Quiff Boy
JB wrote:
Quiff Boy wrote:
DerekR wrote:Still haven't mastered animated menus yet though :? One day, one day....
enter jansenclone.... :von: ;D
Indeed. :notworthy: Men with ridiculously big hair and far too much lipstick. 8)
:lol:

take your word for that. ;D only seen the "adolescent sex" vid myself, but i'm sure my mate lars can see where you're coming from :lol:

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 16:58
by DerekR
Quiff Boy wrote:enter jansenclone.... :von: ;D


:eek: Can't I just buy him a drink? :wink:

Re: DVD recorder reccommendations.

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 23:05
by Hojyuu-obi
DerekR wrote:
Spiggy's hat wrote:I'm ready to buy a dvd recorder & could do with a bit of advice. I have been told to go for a machine that records in a dvdr-r format not dvd+r as most players are dvd- compatible. Is this the case.Is this a VHS v Betamax situation?

Can anyone that has already bought one offer any advice.

It's basically to transfer loads of VHS stuff onto dvd, I will still burn dvd to dvd on a pc.
Whatever you buy make sure it has a Panasonic or Pioneer badge on the front. Don't touch Philips with a bargepole.

Best bet is to use rewriteables (or DVD-RAM in the case of the Panasonic) then copy to DVD-R using the PC then you can re-use the rewriteables over and over (keep them in good nick though as these machines tend to be very fussy about light scratches etc). The Panasonic machines allow basic editing if you use DVD-RAM discs. I'm planning to buy one of these very soon to replace the Philips machine I foolishly bought a couple of years ago.

Or if you are feeling really adventurous, record to DVD-RW, (or DVD-RAM), decrypt the disc to mpeg on the PC, get a hold of some decent DVD authoring software and use this to make fancy menus, chapters, etc, and burn the finished product to DVD-R. I do this on occasion (ie when I can be bothered). Time consuming but worth it.
If you have a standalone Philips or Sony DVD player DVD+R works perfectly fine (as far as I have experienced) ... other brands probably only support DVD-R

Posted: 29 Oct 2004, 23:09
by Quiff Boy
DerekR wrote:
Quiff Boy wrote:enter jansenclone.... :von: ;D


:eek: Can't I just buy him a drink? :wink:
ba-dum tshhhh! :roll: