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Do they exist ?

Posted: 29 Dec 2004, 20:57
by brunobossier
Does someone know if the following items exist :

Echoes volume 2 (LP + booklet)
Sleeve : picture of a skull, title bottom centered, white LIMITED EDITION sticker under band name
Label : Speed of Light Records


Live in Holland (LP)
Sleeve : title top center (under band name), overall colour dark green
Label : The Amazing Kornyphone Rebirth Label - TAKRL 2122

Wholy ghost (LP)
Sleeve : A4 cover, picture of a grail, band name and title top center
Label : Trade Mark of Quality


All this comes from the excellent book "The unofficial history of The Sisters of Mercy"

Re: Do they exist ?

Posted: 29 Dec 2004, 21:01
by Big Si
brunobossier wrote:Does someone know if the following items exist :

Echoes volume 2 (LP + booklet)
Sleeve : picture of a skull, title bottom centered, white LIMITED EDITION sticker under band name
Label : Speed of Light Records


Live in Holland (LP)
Sleeve : title top center (under band name), overall colour dark green
Label : The Amazing Kornyphone Rebirth Label - TAKRL 2122

Wholy ghost (LP)
Sleeve : A4 cover, picture of a grail, band name and title top center
Label : Trade Mark of Quality


All this comes from the excellent book "The unofficial history of The Sisters of Mercy"
TAYLOR!

Best ask him! :D

Posted: 29 Dec 2004, 23:54
by Hojyuu-obi
Hello, Bruno I see you are still looking for those. :wink:

Live In Holland was featured in one of Patrick Tappe's bootleg guides, but I never ever heared of anyone who had a copy (Thomas
Meyer perhaps ?). I think it is a ltd. edition of 100 copies like the other TAKRL releases, but probably not all of them circulated (?) ...

Re: Do they exist ?

Posted: 30 Dec 2004, 05:17
by Dan
brunobossier wrote:Wholy ghost (LP)
Sleeve : A4 cover, picture of a grail, band name and title top center
Label : Trade Mark of Quality
I've got that one. It doesn't have a picture on the sleeve though. The sleeve is off-white with "sisters of mercy / wholy ghost" on. Trade Mark Of Quality records all had that sort of bog standard sleeve. I've seen the grail pic on merciless.net. I don't recall any of the TMOQ records having a picture sleeve, unless someone else did a repressing or designed the sleeve themself.

Posted: 30 Dec 2004, 16:57
by brunobossier
I have all the other TAKRL releases, except this one. I have never heard of someone having this Live in Holland. Just wonder where Patrick Tappe got the picture of the sleeve from.

I do know there is 1 collector who has the Wholy Ghost with grail sleeve so it exist, but I just wonder how many do exist. Maybe someone knows ?

Anyway, thanks to all for the replies !

Cheers,
Bruno

Posted: 01 Jan 2005, 19:14
by taylor

Posted: 02 Jan 2005, 20:39
by brunobossier
Hmm ... interesting, but not complete. I have never heard of these items, so wonder if they really exist :

Don't Give It Away
Fade to Black
Hand of God
Some Kind of Strangers

If someone has a copy of one of these items for sale/trade for me, please let me know.

Posted: 02 Jan 2005, 22:25
by Izzy HaveMercy
brunobossier wrote:Hmm ... interesting, but not complete. I have never heard of these items, so wonder if they really exist :

Don't Give It Away
Fade to Black
Hand of God
Some Kind of Strangers

If someone has a copy of one of these items for sale/trade for me, please let me know.

I have the first one, but,.... well.....considering the title of the album... :innocent: :innocent: :innocent:


Sorry. Lame joke. ;D


IZ.

Posted: 03 Jan 2005, 15:57
by brunobossier
Can you send me a scan of the sleeve (front and back) to have an idea how it looks like ?

Thanks,
Bruno

Posted: 03 Jan 2005, 16:56
by Izzy HaveMercy
brunobossier wrote:Can you send me a scan of the sleeve (front and back) to have an idea how it looks like ?

Thanks,
Bruno
No, really. I don't have it.

I was just pulling a really silly joke considering the title of the album.

Fo-rrrrrget it.

(I'm really losing my touch... :| )

IZ.

Posted: 04 Jan 2005, 15:41
by brunobossier
Oeps, missed the joke.

Thanks anyway,
Bruno

Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 13:02
by Armageddon
After serveral years now the question if somebody could help
to get information about these bootleg.

Image


Thomas

Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 14:02
by paul
I only know that it's TAKRL 2122. Never saw one in real life though...

More info here:
http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=544067

Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 14:53
by Victim of Circumstance
I remember this very interesting thread. Thanks for digging it out Paul!

The black Live in Holland lp mentioned in the thread I was offered turned out to be just a copy of Possession disc one with white sleeve (as Cyberbio's copy), so no news here.

Posted: 02 Jan 2013, 12:38
by brunobossier
Well, there are more bootlegs which are just copies of others. It's more the whole package (sleeve + lp) who became mythical.

I have done some more research the past few weeks but could not get new information.

The Amazing Kornyphone Rebirth Label was actually a German bootleg label from Frankfurt in the eighties. More information here :

http://www.discogs.com/label/The%20Amaz ... th%20Label

http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/b ... abels.html

It would be good to find out who these guys were just to get more insight on all their infamous releases.

Posted: 12 Jan 2013, 04:08
by Dan
That's the wrong link. It's The Amazing Kornyfone Record Label, they're a sub-label of Trade Mark of Quality.
http://www.discogs.com/label/The+Amazin ... cord+Label

I have the TMOQ "Wholy Ghost" LP in front of me now and it mentions The Amazing Kornyfone Record Label and Trade Mark of Quality on the insert.

Posted: 12 Jan 2013, 04:28
by Being645
Dan wrote:That's the wrong link. It's The Amazing Kornyfone Record Label, they're a sub-label of Trade Mark of Quality.
http://www.discogs.com/label/The+Amazin ... cord+Label

I have the TMOQ "Wholy Ghost" LP in front of me now and it mentions The Amazing Kornyfone Record Label and Trade Mark of Quality on the insert.
Yeah, the same counts for "Ghostly Crew" TMQ on cover, TAKRL on labels ...

Some more info here ...

Posted: 12 Jan 2013, 11:34
by Randall Flagg
Being645 wrote:
Dan wrote:That's the wrong link. It's The Amazing Kornyfone Record Label, they're a sub-label of Trade Mark of Quality.
http://www.discogs.com/label/The+Amazin ... cord+Label

I have the TMOQ "Wholy Ghost" LP in front of me now and it mentions The Amazing Kornyfone Record Label and Trade Mark of Quality on the insert.
Yeah, the same counts for "Ghostly Crew" TMQ on cover, TAKRL on labels ...

Some more info here ...
If you want to understand more about the history of bootlegs, TMQ/TMOQ in particular - a good place to start is here ...

as is Clinton Heylin's book - Great White Answers

Flagg

Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 17:58
by Being645
Randall Flagg wrote:
Being645 wrote:
Dan wrote:That's the wrong link. It's The Amazing Kornyfone Record Label, they're a sub-label of Trade Mark of Quality.
http://www.discogs.com/label/The+Amazin ... cord+Label

I have the TMOQ "Wholy Ghost" LP in front of me now and it mentions The Amazing Kornyfone Record Label and Trade Mark of Quality on the insert.
Yeah, the same counts for "Ghostly Crew" TMQ on cover, TAKRL on labels ...

Some more info here ...
If you want to understand more about the history of bootlegs, TMQ/TMOQ in particular - a good place to start is here ...

as is Clinton Heylin's book - Great White Answers

Flagg
Thanks for the link, an interesting read, indeed ... :) :notworthy: ...

Btw, I've meanwhile created a Wiki Page for "Live In Holland" ... comments and additional remarks welcome ... :wink: ...

Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 21:39
by Victim of Circumstance
One comment, see also my remarks in this thread and on PD: The same concert / lp was also featured as 3rd record (side E and F) in the TAKRL box set "The Dark" with the release no. TAKRL 2212 :wink:

Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 22:25
by Being645
Victim of Circumstance wrote:One comment, see also my remarks in this thread and on PD: The same concert / lp was also featured as 3rd record (side E and F) in the TAKRL box set "The Dark" with the release no. TAKRL 2212 :wink:
Seen to that ... :D ...

See btw, also Works in Progress, and this as well ... :lol: ...

Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 20:07
by Being645
Randall Flagg wrote:
Being645 wrote:
Dan wrote:That's the wrong link. It's The Amazing Kornyfone Record Label, they're a sub-label of Trade Mark of Quality.
http://www.discogs.com/label/The+Amazin ... cord+Label

I have the TMOQ "Wholy Ghost" LP in front of me now and it mentions The Amazing Kornyfone Record Label and Trade Mark of Quality on the insert.
Yeah, the same counts for "Ghostly Crew" TMQ on cover, TAKRL on labels ...

Some more info here ...
If you want to understand more about the history of bootlegs, TMQ/TMOQ in particular - a good place to start is here ...

as is Clinton Heylin's book - Great White Answers

Flagg
I have again revised the Wiki page accordingly ... could make a few things clearer ... at least I hope so ... :wink: ...

Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 21:41
by paul
Nice work, Sabine :notworthy:

Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 21:46
by Victim of Circumstance
Yes really nice, thanks :notworthy: