Heartland

true though ain't it? not even local

why

If I look at this purely from a music perspective, which is why I'm here in the first place, all of mine are dead. Morrison, Vicious, Curtis, Cobain.

Oh, and the other one lives in Spain as a fat cat feeding fat cats.

Loki wrote:all of mine are dead. Morrison, Vicious, Curtis, Cobain.

Oh, and the other one lives in Spain as a fat cat feeding fat cats.

while i agree that your heroes are indeed dead heroes...surely there must be some out there that are still alive..







Ok...i get your point...

Burn wrote:

Loki wrote:all of mine are dead. Morrison, Vicious, Curtis, Cobain.

Oh, and the other one lives in Spain as a fat cat feeding fat cats.

while i agree that your heroes are indeed dead heroes...surely there must be some out there that are still alive..

Ok...i get your point...

I think that's the irony/discussion point of PiBs post ...

Loki wrote:

Burn wrote:

Loki wrote:all of mine are dead. Morrison, Vicious, Curtis, Cobain.

Oh, and the other one lives in Spain as a fat cat feeding fat cats.

while i agree that your heroes are indeed dead heroes...surely there must be some out there that are still alive..

Ok...i get your point...

I think that's the irony/discussion point of PiBs post ...

so the only good hero is a dead hero...what does that gain anyone?...

if it comes to the question of who would i spend good money on to go and see live before they shake off their mortal coil and become the hero that they're destined to become...then i guess i would include

David Bowie...


um...yep...


seen everyone else who comes into the category of hero in my books (except Izzy )

Bowie's already a Hero (no pun intended) through his longetivity. As are Bono, Sting, Page, Plant, Daltrey et al. They've managed to avoid the pit-falls.

Sport: Witness Stevie Gerrard scoring for Liverpool against Everton last week and not only kissing his crest on his shirt, but actually biting it. Everyone knows he'll be a Chelsea player in the summer.

Music: FF in two years time still going strong? The Killers? Bloc party? Unfortunately in sport and music it's money that talks. No Led Zepp gigging around Brum pubs trying to make it happen. Trying to get a break.

It's all money and the public see that. Each year a new sound, a new fashion. And they accept it. Where do I pay please?

Barry McGuigan? Frank Bruno? James Hunt? Nigel Mansell? Damon Hill?

No More Heroes anymore, so yes I would conclude with PiBs opening post.

It's sad but money talks. And our 'heroes' are manufactured in the blink of an eye. And discarded as quickly. Money talks.

My mummy and daddy

Loki wrote:It's sad but money talks. And our 'heroes' are manufactured in the blink of an eye. And discarded as quickly. Money talks.

the novel below deals with that very concept...



but i have to agree...the current crop of media whores and musical hacks are going to have a long hard slog to emulate the legends of old...

the Two Ronnies

Ditto.

well, pilgrim

Dead hero james.

No more heroes etc

Sad but true.

Heroes? Hmmm... Can't say I've ever had any. People I respect. Certainly not any who've topped themselves/ died of their excesses. Bowie? Yes. Eastwood? Yes. Weller? Yes. Morrissey? Once. Eldritch? Still. My parents? Of course. You miserable bastards. Well alright!

well I think Turk Nobaic did the right thing

James Blast wrote:well I think Turk Nobaic did the right thing

Who?

Kurt Cobain, maybe

Topping yourself is never the right thing.

Who knows what is really the right thing or wrong thing to do. Yes it's wrong but sometimes you can't see an alternative. Everyting is percieved as a knockback or an error of judgement, and then where's the future?

It is all quite rationalised.

Bollocks. There's always someone who'll cry at your passing. Even if it's only the owner of your local off-licence.

Tis the thing that stopped me, back in the dark ages. obviously rational thought never completely left me, so i might not have been as far gone as i thought at the time.

heyho for teen angst

Burn wrote:seen everyone else who comes into the category of hero in my books (except Izzy )

EH?

Oh.

Thanx...

IZ.

Izzy HaveMercy wrote:

Burn wrote:seen everyone else who comes into the category of hero in my books (except Izzy )

EH?

Oh.

Thanx...

IZ.

i would say that your welcome Iz...but then you knew that already

surely Kurt Cobain didn't kill himself...wasn't it the electrician who was working in his house who killed Kurt on Courtney's instruction?

Burn wrote:surely Kurt Cobain didn't kill himself...wasn't it the electrician who was working in his house who killed Kurt on Courtney's instruction?

Oh s**t, here come the conspiracy theories.. not that that's a BAD thing, of course..

i believe in martin luthers stance
i believe in giving peace a chance
i believe in john and yoko
i believe in all the heroes



50 house points for anyone who can name the song the above is from.

Derek R - you are excluded on the grounds that you have taste and you will know the answer....

well if Derek R (no relation Dave?) is excluded it must be one of the following:

• AC/DC
  The Jesus And Mary Chain
  Nick Cave