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Posted: **31 Mar 2005, 11:01**

ever read or listened to the lyrics to the smiths' "cemetary gates"?

swap "Keats and Yeats" for "Elliot" and this could be about eldritch

especially this bit:

If you must write prose/poems
The words you use should be your own
Don't plagiarise or take "on loan"
'Cause there's always someone, somewhere
With a big nose, who knows

1959 and all that, indeed.

the words in full:

Mozza wrote:A dreaded sunny day
So I meet you at the cemetry gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
A dreaded sunny day
So I meet you at the cemetry gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
While Wilde is on mine

So we go inside and we gravely read the stones
All those people, all those lives
Where are they now ?
With loves, and hates
And passions just like mine
They were born
And then they lived
And then they died
It seems so unfair
I want to cry

You say : "'Ere thrice the sun done salutation to the dawn"
And you claim these words as your own
But I've read well, and I've heard them said
A hundred times (maybe less, maybe more)
If you must write prose/poems
The words you use should be your own
Don't plagiarise or take "on loan"
'Cause there's always someone, somewhere
With a big nose, who knows
And who trips you up and laughs
When you fall
Who'll trip you up and laugh
When you fall

You say : "'Ere long done do does did"
Words which could only be your own
And then produce the text
From whence was ripped
(Some dizzy whore, 1804)

A dreaded sunny day
So let's go where we're happy
And I meet you at the cemetry gates
Oh, Keats and Yeats are on your side
A dreaded sunny day
So let's go where we're wanted
And I meet you at the cemetry gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
But you lose
'Cause weird lover Wilde is on mine

Posted: **31 Mar 2005, 11:05**

Now what the

would Eldritch be doing near a cemetary?

Posted: **31 Mar 2005, 12:53**

john langford still likes him

And now he is the Prince of Darkness
He holds old friends in such high esteem
He sees a red town and wants it painted black
For the Catholic girls at Halloween

Well he said to me, "I've waited seven years
And I am a very patient man
After all those things that we've gone and done
I still need someone to tell"

His pleasures were a mystery to us all
You'd never see him out after dawn
In a German seaport town he takes his coffee in the red-light
And now he is the Prince of Darkness

Posted: **01 Apr 2005, 21:27**

markfiend wrote:Now what the would Eldritch be doing near a cemetary?

http://www.myheartland.co.uk/gallery/de ... age_id=231

Posted: **01 Apr 2005, 23:38**

Quiff Boy wrote:ever read or listened to the lyrics to the smiths' "cemetary gates"?

swap "Keats and Yeats" for "Elliot" and this could be about eldritch

And if you substituted the words "Shelagh" and "Delaney", to whom might this also apply?

Posted: **20 Jul 2010, 00:24**

Ripped or reconfigured though?

Posted: **26 Jul 2010, 20:10**

Still after all these years narked that i couldn't get to the Sisters/Smiths gig. The two best bands ever in me humble opinion!

Posted: **17 Aug 2010, 00:05**

Both of them are so good at putting interviewers in their place in their own subtle way (well, maybe not so subtle).

Both are masters of the English language when it comes to synicism & whit.

Both write great songs that are sometimes hard to figure out but sometimes don't need to be thought about.

Personally, I can't choose one over the other as to who is the better entertainer so I don't think of them in that regard.

To me they're both great and are 2 of my favourite singer/songwriters.

Posted: **17 Aug 2010, 08:53**

Kerry and I were round a friend's house drinking and watching a load of old Smiths videos, interviews, and live performances on Friday, we were up until about 4 am.

Posted: **17 Aug 2010, 15:22**

if you need to talk mark I'm here for ya

Posted: **17 Aug 2010, 15:38**

It's OK, I can handle it

Posted: **17 Aug 2010, 19:15**

markfiend wrote:Kerry and I were round a friend's house drinking and watching a load of old Smiths videos, interviews, and live performances on Friday, we were up until about 4 am.

So it was a case of There was a light that didn't go out

Yes, I've done the same thing.
Morrissey's light will never go out.

Posted: **17 Aug 2010, 19:19**

And when we got home we decided another bottle of wine would be a good idea.

Neither of us were very well on Saturday

Posted: **17 Aug 2010, 19:27**

Every day is like a Sunday

Posted: **17 Aug 2010, 21:02**

not very goth, jist miserable I take a dim view of this sort of thing

down with it etc.

Posted: **18 Aug 2010, 08:51**

I once had a friend try to persuade me that The Smiths were a goth band.

Posted: **28 Aug 2010, 23:09**

I once had a girlfriend in a graveyard.

Posted: **28 Aug 2010, 23:15**

after you put her in a coma, i imagine?

sorry, couldn't resist

coat, etc.

Posted: **28 Aug 2010, 23:21**

Not at all, it was really Serious

Posted: **28 Aug 2010, 23:23**

By the cemetetry gates

Posted: **28 Aug 2010, 23:27**

oh deary me

and there was me thinking you were only joking when you said you'd like to smash every tooth in her head.

Posted: **28 Aug 2010, 23:31**

She still has a fine set of teeth so I'm told, thanks for the concern

Posted: **29 Aug 2010, 01:11**

under the iron bridge you kissed, and 'tho you ended up with sore lips it just wasn't like the old days anymore

yeah?

Posted: **29 Aug 2010, 10:11**

Nothing remains ... on Sunday ...

...

Posted: **29 Aug 2010, 18:53**

markfiend wrote:I once had a friend try to persuade me that The Smiths were a goth band.

1980s, North of England, frilly shirts, flowers, depression, cemeteries...

What are we missing?

Heartland

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