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Russian Flexis.
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 11:27
by Dark
Go on, surprise me. How many people here have Russian flexidisk Sisters bootlegs?
That's a point though, how much should I pay for one (assuming I wanted one).
Anyone who answers "Nothing" will be assaulted.
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 12:11
by Quiff Boy
not me, and i wouldnt even pay a 50p for one. utter waste of money - look s**t, sound s**t, not remotely official, and everything on them is available in perfect cd quality for a fraction the price.
unless you live somewhere where legit stuff is unavailable (ie: the former soviet union) they are utterly pointless.
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 12:22
by taylor
them are done on demand
you need just £50 of equipement for to do a flexi
crappy items - doesnt valued nothing
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 12:47
by Dark
taylor wrote:them are done on demand
you need just £50 of equipement for to do a flexi
crappy items - doesnt valued nothing
Where can I get hold of such equipment?
(is the ulterior motive of this post showing through yet?)
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 13:28
by markfiend
Now now naughty boy
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 13:30
by taylor
sorry dont know now
long time ago I had seen it and it's very easy
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 15:32
by Dark
No no no, I'm not planning to bootleg Sisters songs (that's so unoriginal it's sad)
I meant for my own band. It's an alternative to burning CD-Rs, which would look more than a little unprofessional.
Pleeeeeease can someone find out how to get equipment for it? :angelicpuppydogeyes:
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 15:37
by markfiend
That would be quite cool actually
You could just look for pressing plants / record studios in the yellow pages and see how much they charge for flexis; it would probably be cheaper (and easier) than trying to press them yourself.
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 15:48
by Quiff Boy
markfiend wrote:That would be quite cool actually
You could just look for pressing plants / record studios in the yellow pages and see how much they charge for flexis; it would probably be cheaper (and easier) than trying to press them yourself.
a very cool idea!
i could ask choque what he does? i know he has fairly limited runs of around 500 x 7" singles done for bands on his label...
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 16:17
by Dark
Quiff Boy wrote:markfiend wrote:That would be quite cool actually
You could just look for pressing plants / record studios in the yellow pages and see how much they charge for flexis; it would probably be cheaper (and easier) than trying to press them yourself.
a very cool idea!
i could ask choque what he does? i know he has fairly limited runs of around 500 x 7" singles done for bands on his label...
Apparently very few plants (if any?) now make flexis, but independant ones might still.
If you could, Quiffy, I'd be very grateful.
The reason I wanted to know about pressing flexis from home, especially if the machinery isn't that large/expensive, is because as much as I'd love to give out music on CD-Rs, nobody will pay money for a CD-R, and they're open to piracy because no-one could tell the difference between a real and a well made fake.
Flexis, however, would be easy to send out to people, and be collectible.
That and there's no record label that would -dream- of accepting me, so pressing them myself would be the only viable option. (Plus I wouldn't want to pay hundreds for 500 records, when I might only sell about 100.
Re: Russian Flexis.
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 16:41
by Andrew S
Dark wrote:Go on, surprise me. How many people here have Russian flexidisk Sisters bootlegs?
That's a point though, how much should I pay for one (assuming I wanted one).
Anyone who answers "Nothing" will be assaulted.
I confess to owning the Ribbons one. I got it ages ago so I can't remember how much I paid for it. It wasn't much but it's not something I'd fork out anything for now. The flexi itself looks pretty uninteresting - a clear square with a paper sleeve (if you could call a folded sheet of paper a sleeve). I've never attempted to play it so I've no idea how bad (or good) it sounds.
Re: Russian Flexis.
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 16:54
by Dark
Andrew S wrote:Dark wrote:Go on, surprise me. How many people here have Russian flexidisk Sisters bootlegs?
That's a point though, how much should I pay for one (assuming I wanted one).
Anyone who answers "Nothing" will be assaulted.
I confess to owning the Ribbons one. I got it ages ago so I can't remember how much I paid for it. It wasn't much but it's not something I'd fork out anything for now. The flexi itself looks pretty uninteresting - a clear square with a paper sleeve (if you could call a folded sheet of paper a sleeve). I've never attempted to play it so I've no idea how bad (or good) it sounds.
Well.. you know who will gladly take it off your hands if you don't want it...
Re: Russian Flexis.
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 17:11
by Andrew S
Dark wrote:Andrew S wrote:I confess to owning the Ribbons one. I got it ages ago so I can't remember how much I paid for it. It wasn't much but it's not something I'd fork out anything for now. The flexi itself looks pretty uninteresting - a clear square with a paper sleeve (if you could call a folded sheet of paper a sleeve). I've never attempted to play it so I've no idea how bad (or good) it sounds.
Well.. you know who will gladly take it off your hands if you don't want it...
Sorry Dark, I'm actually quite attached to it. It doesn't look worth s**t but it's the only one I've got and I don't think I want to part with it.
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 17:26
by Dark
No worries, it was worth a shot. Just I've seen them for sale from £2 to £15. Why can't people just sell a whole lot of them, about 10 or so for a couple of quid?
I'd buy them..
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 18:14
by RobF
Vestax make a domestic vinyl cutting deck, but they're a right bugger to use, they cost £6000 and the blank discs are a tenner each when you can find 'em.
Still it's better than the evil of C.D.s, bands that don't release vinyl smell of bum...
Posted: 08 Apr 2005, 19:19
by Dark
RobF wrote:Vestax make a domestic vinyl cutting deck, but they're a right bugger to use, they cost £6000 and the blank discs are a tenner each when you can find 'em.
Still it's better than the evil of C.D.s, bands that don't release vinyl smell of bum...
Yeah, but like I said, I may be able to do a thousand, I may only be able to sell 100, and since nobody would pay £70 odd for a record, that's THAT plan out the proverbial window.
Posted: 09 Apr 2005, 00:53
by Francis
Dark wrote:(is the ulterior motive of this post showing through yet?)
Well saved. Almost. You can't kid a kidder. Btw flexi-discs are sh!te. Even I wouldn't let them near my stylus, and I'm not that choosy. Stick to CD-Rs. Face it, you're gonna have to give them away anyway. Too easy to copy? You should be so lucky.
Posted: 09 Apr 2005, 10:45
by Dark
Francis wrote:Dark wrote:(is the ulterior motive of this post showing through yet?)
Well saved. Almost. You can't kid a kidder. Btw flexi-discs are sh!te. Even I wouldn't let them near my stylus, and I'm not that choosy. Stick to CD-Rs. Face it, you're gonna have to give them away anyway. Too easy to copy? You should be so lucky.
You just know I'm going to play Long Train to spite you now.
I just like flexis because they're something different. It's just so annoying that companies don't charge you for every 7" you need, instead of buying them in quantities of 500 / 1000s. -_-
Anyway, no skin off my nose if you don't want to hear songs I make, Francis. You're the one missing out.
Posted: 09 Apr 2005, 17:06
by Dan
Dark wrote:It's an alternative to burning CD-Rs, which would look more than a little unprofessional.
In that case why not buy a printer that prints on cd-r's, then you could buy unbranded silver discs and print on them and they'd look exactly the same as the factory made discs (I suspect a lot of the "factory made" boots are made in this way.)
Posted: 09 Apr 2005, 18:09
by CellThree
Or you could use this Lightscribe thing that HP are developing. Nero has support for it now, but initially it will only be available for HP CD/DVD writers although they say any normal writer can be configured for it.
Basically it burns images onto the top of the discs. Looks like you may have to buy special CD-Rs and DVD-Rs though for it to work. That may be quite expensive, but worth it if you only want to make a few copies.
Posted: 09 Apr 2005, 18:22
by lazarus corporation
CellThree wrote:Or you could use this Lightscribe thing that HP are developing. Nero has support for it now, but initially it will only be available for HP CD/DVD writers although they say any normal writer can be configured for it.
Basically it burns images onto the top of the discs. Looks like you may have to buy special CD-Rs and DVD-Rs though for it to work. That may be quite expensive, but worth it if you only want to make a few copies.
I was reading about the Lightscribe thing elsewhere - looks like an interesting development
Posted: 09 Apr 2005, 18:48
by Dark
Ah, I didn't know you COULD get silver CD-Rs. I thought they still had a sheen to them which meant you could pretty much tell they were CD-Rs.
Posted: 09 Apr 2005, 20:57
by Andrew S
Dark wrote:Ah, I didn't know you COULD get silver CD-Rs. I thought they still had a sheen to them which meant you could pretty much tell they were CD-Rs.
I'm sure I've got a couple of boots recorded on plain silver CDRs. They're a right bugger cos I always end up putting them in the player upside down.
Posted: 10 Apr 2005, 13:23
by Dark
Andrew S wrote:Dark wrote:Ah, I didn't know you COULD get silver CD-Rs. I thought they still had a sheen to them which meant you could pretty much tell they were CD-Rs.
I'm sure I've got a couple of boots recorded on plain silver CDRs. They're a right bugger cos I always end up putting them in the player upside down.
Do they have the brand name on the other side? If they have, say, silver CD-Rs, with plain white on the other side, then those I'll be buying.
Posted: 10 Apr 2005, 18:53
by Andrew S
Dark wrote:
Do they have the brand name on the other side?
Do you really think I'd put them in upside down if this were the case? No, both sides of the disc are totally plain silver, hence the confusion. I really should get round to buying a new marker pen...