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This album title seems very biblical. Okay they were goths (even if they deny it) but I never expected it from Eldritch, assuming it indeed is a religious/biblical reference. Is it?

in the context of relationships it could be seen as someone that was first love, will be your last love ("i'll never love again!") and will be the one you always love (they say your first love always ha a special place in your heart)...

Biblical? In what way? I've always taken it the same way as Quiffy.

That crucial first love. Sort of happens too young, though, doesn't it? Like in instances where you look back (with added years of wisdom under your belt) and say, "Why didn't I see that coming?", "what did I ever see in so-and-so?", "what a user!", et al.

...or what a jerk I was...

Agree with the above, I always took it as a statement of 'we're here, this is important and it will forever be'., if you know what I mean.

or:

"first and last and always. mine. 'till the end of time"

von mate, let her go. dont make her have to take out a restraining order on you

first album from this line-up, last album from this line-up and always will it be

James Blast wrote:first album from this line-up, last album from this line-up and always will it be

good call.

sadly.

I took it as a boastful, debut-typical, self-confident proclamation, expressing the estimated impact, the album/the band will surely have on the world.
(something like "We came, we saw, we conquered)

Didn't think, that love could be such an issue in these early days..

First love? Never had one myself, can't relate therefore.

It's biblical in that that it is a bible quote. Andrew said in an interview that he always knew the album was going to be their first and last. Hence the title, which was to be prophetic and smug at the same time, and Wake. He could see things on the horizon. The words to Possession is about that.

The Green Lantern wrote:It's biblical in that that it is a bible quote.

Aha!

The Green Lantern wrote:Andrew said in an interview

But do you believe him?

The Green Lantern wrote:It's biblical in that that it is a bible quote.

I've just looked up "first and last and always" on an online searchable bible, and not found it.

markfiend wrote:

The Green Lantern wrote:It's biblical in that that it is a bible quote.

I've just looked up "first and last and always" on an online searchable bible, and not found it.

Perhaps along the lines of "I am the Alpha and the Omega". Not a direct quote, though.

Martin

markfiend wrote:

The Green Lantern wrote:It's biblical in that that it is a bible quote.

I've just looked up "first and last and always" on an online searchable bible, and not found it.

hehehe that's funny mark. searchable faith

try revelations. or god is first to arrive last to go and yet lives on forever

subtle

must have sleep

Yep, the phrase "I am the alpha and the omega," meaning I am the first and the last, appears a few times in Revelations. The closest to first and last and always is probably Revelations 1:8: "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Or thereabouts.

CorpPunk wrote:"who is, and who was, and who is to come....."

Reminds me of quote's associated with King Arthur

Von, the once and future goth-king?

I'd just like to make it clear that I didn't quote the Bible from memory. I too used the searchable faith function on my Safari toolbar. I just knew the right words to look for...

CorpPunk wrote:I'd just like to make it clear that I didn't quote the Bible from memory. I too used the searchable faith function on my Safari toolbar. I just knew the right words to look for...

well i knew revelations

but by the power of google, i bring you the demo version (king james natch)

Isaiah 44:6 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Unfortunatley the title reminds me of this little ditty:
http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/bridgetj ... ything.htm

I'm sure I've seen it as an exact quote as well, not just a vague resemblance. Come to think of it I'm pretty sure Richard Chamberlein recites the phrase in Thornbirds. Give me a moment or a couple years and I'll look it up

Andrew S wrote:Unfortunatley the title reminds me of this little ditty:
http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/bridgetj ... ything.htm

Right and Mariah Carey sings in " It's like that" the line "No time to cry"
What are we gonna make out of this now?

The Green Lantern wrote:It's biblical in that that it is a bible quote. Andrew said in an interview that he always knew the album was going to be their first and last. Hence the title, which was to be prophetic and smug at the same time, and Wake. He could see things on the horizon. The words to Possession is about that.

---- Wake was named before it was even filmed?

Certainly. The gig was named Wake in advance. The good Lord Von knoweth things far beyond our ken (that's knowledge, not Barlow, mind, because he's really clever).