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Unix or Linux

Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 09:25
by nick the stripper
The other day I started teaching myself Python programming language because I heard it is the easiest to begin with.

I was told that I should download unix or linux.

What does unix and linux do and which is better for beginners?

Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 10:06
by hallucienate
Unix and Windows are operating systems, like Windows. There is a bit of a learning curve and an adjustment if you're used to Windows.

Unix isn't really an option for you as it is designed for main frames.

Linux is primarily PC hardware based and free (unix ain't). There are several distributions of Linux and recommending one will always lead to disagreements, but try Fedora, Mandriva or Ubuntu for easy installation.

If you just want it for Python I would recommend you get the Windows Python client from www.python.org and use that (it's also free!!). Installing Linux just to use a Python client would be like going to a m*****n gig just to hear the Marian riff during Wasteland ;)

Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 11:49
by lazarus corporation
Linux

Fedora is easy to start with (as Hal said, many arguments have been started over which distro to actually use. But Fedora is good to start with). Install Apache, MySQL and PHP as well for the full LAMP setup.

Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 12:11
by nick the stripper
I own Python 2.4.1 Windows installer (Windows binary -- does not include source) .

I'm planning on Learning Javascript, C and C++ after learning Python, I'm going to get Linux from Fedora.
Thanks for the recommendation :D

Will I still be able to use windows if I have linux?

Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 13:56
by hallucienate
nick the stripper wrote:Will I still be able to use windows if I have linux?
You'll be able to set it up to dual-boot your PC, just be careful when changing the partitions on your hard drive. Then you need to reboot when changing OSes, which is a bit of a drag. I found myself sticking with windows at home and eventually removed linux altogether. I now have a linux box stuck in a cupboard that I connect to over the network if I wanna mess around.

At work I got both a windows and a linux desktop setup which I control over a KVM switch. 8)

Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 15:01
by aims
lazarus corporation wrote:Linux

Fedora is easy to start with (as Hal said, many arguments have been started over which distro to actually use. But Fedora is good to start with). Install Apache, MySQL and PHP as well for the full LAMP setup.
Wuss. He should go for Gentoo :innocent:



THE ABOVE COMMENT IS NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY IF YOU VALUE YOUR WINDOWS INSTALLATION

Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 15:16
by lazarus corporation
nick the stripper wrote:I own Python 2.4.1 Windows installer (Windows binary -- does not include source) .

I'm planning on Learning Javascript, C and C++ after learning Python, I'm going to get Linux from Fedora.
Thanks for the recommendation :D

Will I still be able to use windows if I have linux?
Python, JavaScript, C and C++ is a strange combination.

I've been thinking about brushing up on my DOM-compliant JavaScript so that I can start experimenting with this AJaX malarkey

Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 15:24
by hallucienate
I've thought about learning Python myself, but it'd make my boss waaaay too happy and increase my workload, so I just stick to scripting languages he has little interest in or use for :innocent:

Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 17:43
by aims
lazarus corporation wrote:I've been thinking about brushing up on my DOM-compliant JavaScript so that I can start experimenting with this AJaX malarkey
Don't be silly.

No browser implements DOM-compliant JavaScript :lol:

Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 18:09
by lazarus corporation
Motz wrote:
lazarus corporation wrote:I've been thinking about brushing up on my DOM-compliant JavaScript so that I can start experimenting with this AJaX malarkey
Don't be silly.

No browser implements DOM-compliant JavaScript :lol:
true.

but some are close enough. Image

Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 19:17
by aims
:notworthy:

I'm completely loving that smiley :P

Posted: 19 Jun 2005, 12:29
by lazarus corporation
@nick the stripper - probably a bit too late, but I just spotted a link to this Beginner’s guide to Linux distros on Slashdot. I think it's a good overview of all the major distros.

Posted: 20 Jun 2005, 10:02
by markfiend
geeks

Posted: 20 Jun 2005, 10:10
by nick the stripper
lazarus corporation wrote:@nick the stripper - probably a bit too late, but I just spotted a link to this Beginner’s guide to Linux distros on Slashdot. I think it's a good overview of all the major distros.
The link was alot of help, thanks :notworthy: :notworthy:

I'm slowly getting to grips with Python.

Posted: 20 Jun 2005, 10:31
by aims
markfiend wrote:geeks
So's :von: :innocent:

Posted: 20 Jun 2005, 10:48
by Francis
Motz wrote:
markfiend wrote:geeks
So's :von: :innocent:
Yes, but he also gets paid to make love to a microphone stand in public. Beat that. :lol:

Posted: 20 Jun 2005, 15:20
by aims
You've got me there :lol:

Posted: 21 Jun 2005, 16:57
by James Blast
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