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I want a Pet Fox :|

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 15:43
by Rosalie
Foxes are great. They're so cute!

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Awwwwww...

I want one. I'd hug it and feed it and it'd be my doggie. I'd call it Eldebert the fox, or something like that. It'd be the bestest pet in the world.

I'd quite like a d00m w0lf too, but I hear they're terrible for tearing up furniture. Bless.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 15:47
by smiscandlon
I'd call mine Edward.

Or possibly Samantha.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 15:47
by markfiend
You can't tame a fox. It would be incapable of getting over its innate fear of humans. It's not like a dog that just accepts a human as a surrogate pack-leader (helped by 20-odd thousand years of selective breeding to make them more human-friendly) or a cat that just hangs around humans until someone invents a can-opener operable by paws.

But yeah, they're cute. mrs fiend's mum had one in her back garden yesterday evening. ;D

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 15:49
by smiscandlon
markfiend wrote:mrs fiend's mum had one in her back garden yesterday evening. ;D
Barbeque?

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 15:49
by RicheyJames
i don't know who's been doing their pr but they could even teach max clifford a thing or two...

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 15:50
by Rosalie
markfiend wrote:You can't tame a fox. It would be incapable of getting over its innate fear of humans. It's not like a dog that just accepts a human as a surrogate pack-leader (helped by 20-odd thousand years of selective breeding to make them more human-friendly) or a cat that just hangs around humans until someone invents a can-opener operable by paws.

But yeah, they're cute. mrs fiend's mum had one in her back garden yesterday evening. ;D
You can tame foxes, actually, I know some people have them as pets. Foxes essentially *are* semi-domesticated wolves, after all.

I prefer wild animals. I wouldn't want to take it's freedom too much though... I'd raise it as a cub in a small forest :) Got one in my parents back garden, actually. I'd just put a collar on him and tracking device so he doesn't get lost ^_^

I don't imagine it would be much worse than my last dog.

But yeah, if you raise it as a cub, you can have a tame fox.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 15:51
by Thea
:eek:

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 15:52
by Rosalie
d00mw0lf wrote::eek:
What, would you rather I make fun of Francis' name again?

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 15:59
by Thea
Well, if I'm honest, yes.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:02
by Rosalie
:(

What's wrong with wanting a pet fox?

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:04
by Thea
Ever smelt one? Rather pungent creatures.
I'd suggest a badger instead, but you don't wanna go mentioning them round here...

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:06
by Rosalie
You don't like foxies? :|

I have almost no sense of smell, actually... I don't really know what it's like to smell. The Doctors are baffled. Couldn't fix my nose. Heh. Had an operation on it, didn't help.

I really want to get ferrets... I like almost any decent animal, really, I'm not picky. I'd like another doggy, but I think if I kept a fox clean it'd be just as nice.

What animals do you like?

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:10
by Thea
Dogs, Rats, anything I can mould into an unholy army of the night really.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:10
by markfiend
Rosalie wrote:You can tame foxes, actually, I know some people have them as pets.
:eek: really? OK, colour me corrected.
Rosalie wrote:Foxes essentially *are* semi-domesticated wolves, after all.
<nitpick>

Well, no, that's dogs. Dogs are wolves; the wolf is Canis lupus and the domesticated subspecies (the dog) is C lupus familiaris. Foxes are part of the Vulpes genus (although still part of the family Canidae).

</nitpick>

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:12
by Thea
markfiend wrote:
Rosalie wrote:You can tame foxes, actually, I know some people have them as pets.
:eek: really? OK, colour me corrected.
OhYes. my granny had one.
Hence my knowing that they smell terrible.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:12
by Debaser
Rosalie wrote: You can tame foxes, actually, I know some people have them as pets. Foxes essentially *are* semi-domesticated wolves, after all.

I prefer wild animals. I wouldn't want to take it's freedom too much though... I'd raise it as a cub in a small forest :) Got one in my parents back garden, actually. I'd just put a collar on him and tracking device so he doesn't get lost ^_^

I don't imagine it would be much worse than my last dog.

But yeah, if you raise it as a cub, you can have a tame fox.
As FogHorn LegHorn would say...'I cain't stands no mawah!' It's a wild animal - just leave it there. Put a collar on him? yeah and give him a fwuffy ikkle name too. Stop humanising the non human. He looks beautiful in his natural setting not in someone's front room.

I ought to shut up now..me and foxes huh :roll: :innocent:

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:12
by Rosalie
Where the hell did foxes come from then?

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:14
by Thea
Rosalie wrote:Where the hell did foxes come from then?
Well, when a mummy and a daddy fox love each other.... :roll:

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:15
by markfiend
Debaser wrote:As FogHorn LegHorn would say...'I cain't stands no mawah!' It's a wild animal - just leave it there. Put a collar on him? yeah and give him a fwuffy ikkle name too. Stop humanising the non human. He looks beautiful in his natural setting not in someone's front room.
Yeah actually. Good point. Here's me waffling on about Canis this and Vulpes that... Wood for the trees time.
Debaser wrote:I ought to shut up now..me and foxes huh :roll: :innocent:
Hehehe we'll let you off ;)

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:17
by Rosalie
Debaser wrote:
Rosalie wrote: You can tame foxes, actually, I know some people have them as pets. Foxes essentially *are* semi-domesticated wolves, after all.

I prefer wild animals. I wouldn't want to take it's freedom too much though... I'd raise it as a cub in a small forest :) Got one in my parents back garden, actually. I'd just put a collar on him and tracking device so he doesn't get lost ^_^

I don't imagine it would be much worse than my last dog.

But yeah, if you raise it as a cub, you can have a tame fox.
As FogHorn LegHorn would say...'I cain't stands no mawah!' It's a wild animal - just leave it there. Put a collar on him? yeah and give him a fwuffy ikkle name too. Stop humanising the non human. He looks beautiful in his natural setting not in someone's front room.

I ought to shut up now..me and foxes huh :roll: :innocent:
I know, I love the wild. Like I said, I'd really just teach it to be friendly towards humans and let it run around a forest :P I don't think that's over humanising it really. I'd never keep a fox cooked up in a house or garden.
I think you misunderstand what type of person I am.

Well, I'd let it in if it was too cold or wet, obviously.

Though it does beg the question, if an animal is raised domestic, is it truly wild? What seperates it from a dog?

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:18
by Debaser
d00mw0lf wrote:
Rosalie wrote:Where the hell did foxes come from then?
Well, when a mummy and a daddy fox love each other.... :roll:
FLIPPIN HECK!!!!!! That's Coke all over the school pooter!! ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:21
by markfiend
Rosalie wrote:Where the hell did foxes come from then?
Well, I'm not that well up on the evolutionary history of the Canidae but as foxes, wolves and dogs are all the same family, I'd guess that they all evolved from a common ancestor that lived relatively recently. Purely a shot in the dark, but they probably all diverged from something that looked a bit doggy, a bit wolfie, a bit foxie maybe 5 million years ago? I've found a clicky... but no mention of foxes. Image

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:21
by Thea
Well, that's where you get foxes innit?
LISTER: And I'm going to get a sheep and a cow, and breed horses.
RIMMER: With a sheep and a cow?
LISTER: No, with horses and horses!
:roll:

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:23
by Rosalie
Red Dwarf! I love Red Dwarf!

:D

I hear the movie is scheduled for a late 2012 release.

Red Dwarf: The Geriatric years is sure to be an instant hit among the elderly.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:26
by Debaser
Rosalie wrote:
Debaser wrote:
Rosalie wrote: You can tame foxes, actually, I know some people have them as pets. Foxes essentially *are* semi-domesticated wolves, after all.

I prefer wild animals. I wouldn't want to take it's freedom too much though... I'd raise it as a cub in a small forest :) Got one in my parents back garden, actually. I'd just put a collar on him and tracking device so he doesn't get lost ^_^

I don't imagine it would be much worse than my last dog.

But yeah, if you raise it as a cub, you can have a tame fox.
As FogHorn LegHorn would say...'I cain't stands no mawah!' It's a wild animal - just leave it there. Put a collar on him? yeah and give him a fwuffy ikkle name too. Stop humanising the non human. He looks beautiful in his natural setting not in someone's front room.

I ought to shut up now..me and foxes huh :roll: :innocent:
I know, I love the wild. Like I said, I'd really just teach it to be friendly towards humans and let it run around a forest :P I don't think that's over humanising it really. I'd never keep a fox cooked up in a house or garden.
I think you misunderstand what type of person I am.

Well, I'd let it in if it was too cold or wet, obviously.

Though it does beg the question, if an animal is raised domestic, is it truly wild? What seperates it from a dog?
I have absolutely NO idea of what kind of person you are. But what I do know is you think a fox is gonna want to sit by a fire because YOU think it's too cold. HE'S A WILD CREATURE!!! Living outside means he grows the appropriate clothing.

Domestic animals? Have you seen 'When good pets go bad???' :D :D :D

You can NEVER truat an animal not to return to it's basic instincts. Fight or flight, they will always go back to those to innate behaviours.

Anyway...before I get picked up on other stuff....:D