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What makes a "Prog Rock"band?

Posted: 14 Aug 2005, 19:28
by scotty
I was listening to an old tape of "Dark Side Of The Moon",nicked from my Dad years ago,along with some Jethro Tull and Rush tapes and was wondering when did "Prog Rock"stop,or did/has it stopped.
What makes a Prog band?,is it the time scale,69? till 78?,is it just bands like the above that can claim the name?.It got me thinking,can't the Sisters and other "post punk" bands,PIL,UK Decay,Skeletal Family ect also be considered a type of "Prog",did they not *progress* the punk movement to a higher level?,could "Elizium"not be a Prog Album,or has it been branded a Goth record,arn't Marrilion a prog band,any Ideas?.

Posted: 14 Aug 2005, 19:37
by aims
Apparently there are still a few Prog bands around ,Porcupine Tree and God Speed You Black Emperor being a couple that my drum teacher (an old prog rocker) speaks highly of. Generally, I think that anything intelligent and above or outside the musical norm which shows a good degree of musicianship can be considered prog rock. However, I wouldn't class the Sisters as prog since, for once, they're a little too normal.

Posted: 14 Aug 2005, 19:42
by Obviousman
Is Godspeed 'prog rock'? Cool, never knew to what genre they belonged :D
One of the bands I just love :notworthy:

Anyway, not into 'genres', so couldn't possibly be of any help, I just listen to whatever I like listening to..

Posted: 14 Aug 2005, 23:16
by ruffers
I used to be a big fan of progressive house, just so you know.

Posted: 15 Aug 2005, 00:28
by Debaser
I thinkit's the need to put yer drum kit on a Persian rug that makes you 'prog' ;)

Posted: 15 Aug 2005, 13:50
by Zuma
Debaser wrote:I thinkit's the need to put yer drum kit on a Persian rug that makes you 'prog' ;)
With at least 2 bass drums, 30 cymbals and a gong

Posted: 15 Aug 2005, 13:50
by Izzy HaveMercy
Obviousman wrote:Is Godspeed 'prog rock'? Cool, never knew to what genre they belonged :D
One of the bands I just love :notworthy:

Anyway, not into 'genres', so couldn't possibly be of any help, I just listen to whatever I like listening to..
I thought Godspeed was calles 'post rock'.

Then again, I rather hate all this fancy schmansy name-calling. It is music. And good music too ;D

IZ.

Posted: 15 Aug 2005, 13:51
by Izzy HaveMercy
Zuma wrote:
Debaser wrote:I thinkit's the need to put yer drum kit on a Persian rug that makes you 'prog' ;)
With at least 2 bass drums, 30 cymbals and a gong
And always remember kids: 'sus4' is your best friend! ;D

IZ.

Posted: 15 Aug 2005, 13:51
by Debaser
Zuma wrote:
Debaser wrote:I thinkit's the need to put yer drum kit on a Persian rug that makes you 'prog' ;)
With at least 2 bass drums, 30 cymbals and a gong
And possibly wearing a kaftan?

Re: What makes a "Prog Rock"band?

Posted: 15 Aug 2005, 14:25
by DerekR
scotty wrote:What makes a "Prog Rock"band?
Just ask yerself "Does Blast like them?" :lol:

Posted: 15 Aug 2005, 15:38
by Zuma
should also include an orchestra and some ice skating too...

Posted: 15 Aug 2005, 15:43
by ruffers
The ability for fans of the music to take the whole thing INCREDIBLY seriously. I was looking for a quick definition thinking there was a chance of extracting a humourous picture or something.

No no no - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp

Posted: 15 Aug 2005, 19:15
by Zuma
and you will need one of these - http://www.radmonkeycowbells.com/

Posted: 15 Aug 2005, 19:56
by rian
The lyrics?


At least it does in Sweden.

Posted: 15 Aug 2005, 20:40
by Izzy HaveMercy
ruffers wrote:I was looking for a quick definition thinking there was a chance of extracting a humourous picture or something.

No no no - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp

THIS will help then ;D

IZ.

Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 18:12
by James Blast
an olde phart finally gets round to replying:

at the time, you must remember, bands like The Van Der Graaf Generator, Genesis, Yes, ELP, The Mahavishnu Orchestra*, Todd Rundgren's Utopia, Hawkwind, King Crimson, Roxy Music et al. were all pretty cutting edge. As a teenager back then this was really exciting stuff and a big leap away from what was on Radio 1 (Peel/Freeman and later on Vance excepted). I still love that music, what I find hard to take are the new prog bands like IQ, Spock's Beard, Masque, Morse, World Trade and too many other outfits that just don't 'click' for me. And Mojo style journos trying to make a name for themselves by saying Radioheid are new prog are off their fcuking Radioheid's!


I will defend to my dying breath all the classic bands from the early to late 70s and those great albums, I just have a problem with anything after that.

I still don't like Marillion BTW

*probably more Jazz Rock/Fusion than prog

Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 18:15
by ruffers
Spock's Beard?

Are you sure? :lol: :lol:

Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 18:22
by James Blast
Clicky!

I ain't lyin'!

Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 19:25
by Delilah
Prog Rock? Lots of melody, scale and time changes, long and comlicated guitar/keyboard solos, drum solos (yes, that can be possible), a vocalist that actually can sing, sometimes includes oriental/classical elements. Some better known Examples:
King Crimson, Marillion, Fish solo, Porcupine Tree, Rush, Yes...
Newer bands (prog-metal): Anathema or The Gathering (later albums).

Personally I'm not a big fan, but I quite like Marillion and Porcupine Tree...

Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 21:43
by James Blast
I have a lot of time for the Porkies, they do a good live show

Posted: 17 Aug 2005, 11:46
by ruffers
They came up on ruffersradio last night. "Not unpleasant, gave them 1 star.

Posted: 17 Aug 2005, 19:54
by James Blast
Prog Rock BBQ
Confession Time
Andrew S is here tonight, our listening/viewing pleasure so far has been:
  • Bauhaus - Shadow Of Light (excerpts) Jansenclone :notworthy:
    Bauhaus - Gotham (excerpts) Jansenclone :notworthy: :notworthy:
    Balaam & The Trousers - Tube (he made me do it)
    TSOM - OGWT
    Genesis - Suppers Ready (1975) thanks Jansenclone :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
    Genesis - Watcher Of The Skies/I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)/The Musical Box Suppers Ready (1974) thanks again Jansenclone :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
    King Crimson - Eyes Wide Open
    The Pink Floyd - Is There Anybody Out There? (The Wall live in America)
    and now The Simpsons
and no matter what he says, it happened and he ate 6 (six) burgers on three buns with 9 large BBQ'd mushrooms.
At least he left me some bacon :(

Posted: 17 Aug 2005, 20:01
by BillyBadBreaks
James Blast wrote: and no matter what he says, it happened and he ate 6 (six) burgers on three buns with 9 large BBQ'd mushrooms.
At least he left me some bacon :(
Fat b@st@rd, fat b@st@rd, f@t b@st@rd!

Wait 'til I visit you mate! :lol:

Posted: 17 Aug 2005, 20:07
by Andrew S
BillyBadBreaks wrote:
James Blast wrote: and no matter what he says, it happened and he ate 6 (six) burgers on three buns with 9 large BBQ'd mushrooms.
At least he left me some bacon :(
Fat b@st@rd, fat b@st@rd, f@t b@st@rd!

Wait 'til I visit you mate! :lol:
Good food good meat good God let's eat!

Andrew

Posted: 17 Aug 2005, 20:30
by BillyBadBreaks
Andrew S wrote:
BillyBadBreaks wrote:
James Blast wrote: and no matter what he says, it happened and he ate 6 (six) burgers on three buns with 9 large BBQ'd mushrooms.
At least he left me some bacon :(
Fat b@st@rd, fat b@st@rd, f@t b@st@rd!

Wait 'til I visit you mate! :lol:
Good food good meat good God let's eat!

Andrew
I'll let you know when I am coming over and we can have a McHeartland pish up ;D