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font question

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 15:40
by Quiff Boy
need a wee favour :D

has anyone got a font called Bernhard Antique in pc format (ie: true type)?

http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/ef/bernhard-antique/

i have a mac "stuffit" file with it a mac version of the font in, and a copy of crossfont which should be able to convert it to pc format, but stuffit really doesnt want to install on my pc so i cant even extract the archive in the first place...

and i gather you really need to do all extraction/conversion gubbins on the on the same computer otherwise the mac "resource forks" get f**ked up :urff: :roll:

so, anyone got a pc version of the font? that would save all the hassle :roll:

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 16:03
by mik
I've got Bernhard Modern / Bernhard Bold Condensed if that's any use?

Depending on what your using it for you can whack an effect over it maybe?

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 16:06
by Quiff Boy
using it for this:

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want to do a few headings etc for the website using the same typeface as their logo.

do either of those look anything like it?

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 16:11
by James Blast
the Antique version is showing nowt but squares, maybe this will help http://fonts.goldenweb.it/pan_file/l/en ... fault.html

if not, try the Antique one http://fonts.goldenweb.it/pan_file/l/en ... fault.html

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 16:18
by mik
Bernhardt Bold Condensed:

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PM me with an email address if it is and I'll zip it up and 'let you have it'.

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 16:23
by James Blast
I do hope you know FaST? :innocent:

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 16:32
by markfiend
Talking of fonts, does anyone know of a font where the numerals have ascenders and descenders like they used to in old books? Sort of like this:
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*edit: I did that on photoshop with shifting some of them up, using a lower case o as the zero and an i with the dot taken off for a 1. But they didn't used to have to do that back in the day of proper movable type...

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 16:32
by aims
I hope that you know about "Fair Use", Mr Blast.

If you can obtain a Mac copy of the font then no court would consider it unreasonable for you to convert it or obtain a converted copy that you could have reasonably created yourself.

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 16:38
by Quiff Boy
not telling you how i "obtained" the mac one then ;)

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 16:45
by James Blast
Motz wrote:I hope that you know about "Fair Use", Mr Blast.

If you can obtain a Mac copy of the font then no court would consider it unreasonable for you to convert it or obtain a converted copy that you could have reasonably created yourself.
I'm not quite up to speed on that one Master Motz but I do remember the days when you could purchase a font but needed licenses to use it on more than one printer.

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 16:51
by mik
markfiend wrote:Talking of fonts, does anyone know of a font where the numerals have ascenders and descenders like they used to in old books?
"Oldstyle" as opposed to "Lining" numerals. Do a google but offhand I know about these:

DTD Silvertone Woodtype (Sans Serif / Helvetica-esque)
ITC New Winchester (Serif / Times New Roman-esque)
ITC Braganza (Script type)

In fact, courtesy of Google, this might help: Oldstyle Figures plus this pdf

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 17:03
by culprit
@ Mark, One font we use on our design drawings that has the ascender/descender is ColonnaMT, a truetype font.

Re: font question

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 17:10
by valeryg
Quiff Boy wrote:need a wee favour :D

has anyone got a font called Bernhard Antique in pc format (ie: true type)?

http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/ef/bernhard-antique/

i have a mac "stuffit" file with it a mac version of the font in, and a copy of crossfont which should be able to convert it to pc format, but stuffit really doesnt want to install on my pc so i cant even extract the archive in the first place...

and i gather you really need to do all extraction/conversion gubbins on the on the same computer otherwise the mac "resource forks" get f**ked up :urff: :roll:

so, anyone got a pc version of the font? that would save all the hassle :roll:
Quiff Boy, if you send me the font i will convert and send back to you.. just tell me: true type or t1 you want?

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 17:21
by James Blast
@ mf Berling
@ QB why would anyone stuff a font these days?

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 17:25
by valeryg
markfiend wrote:Talking of fonts, does anyone know of a font where the numerals have ascenders and descenders like they used to in old books? Sort of like this:
Image
*edit: I did that on photoshop with shifting some of them up, using a lower case o as the zero and an i with the dot taken off for a 1. But they didn't used to have to do that back in the day of proper movable type...
do you want serif fonts or sans serif? look for FFScala or MetaPlus or Quadraat too.. you're a mac user right?

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 18:07
by aims
James Blast wrote: @ QB why would anyone stuff a font these days?
I'm not QB (honest :roll:), but I'll answer anyway.

While stuffing a single file isn't going to save you much, when you're hosting thousands of fonts and serving many downloads of each of them, the bandwidth/disk-space costs add up and a saving in the order of kilobytes per file can have an effect on your bandwidth in the order of gigabytes.

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 19:05
by James Blast
Motz wrote:the bandwidth/disk-space costs add up and a saving in the order of kilobytes per file can have an effect on your bandwidth in the order of gigabytes.
get a job :P

I'm just amazed boudicca hasn't had something to say on this one :roll:

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 20:00
by smiscandlon
markfiend wrote:Talking of fonts, does anyone know of a font where the numerals have ascenders and descenders like they used to in old books? Sort of like this:
Image
*edit: I did that on photoshop with shifting some of them up, using a lower case o as the zero and an i with the dot taken off for a 1. But they didn't used to have to do that back in the day of proper movable type...
I like this one:

http://www.dafont.com/en/font.php?file=dark11

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 20:36
by MadameButterfly
smiscandlon wrote:
markfiend wrote:Talking of fonts, does anyone know of a font where the numerals have ascenders and descenders like they used to in old books? Sort of like this:
Image
*edit: I did that on photoshop with shifting some of them up, using a lower case o as the zero and an i with the dot taken off for a 1. But they didn't used to have to do that back in the day of proper movable type...
I like this one:

http://www.dafont.com/en/font.php?file=dark11
ooh.. :notworthy: thank-you.....for dafont.....good to get back to designs :wink:

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 21:11
by Quiff Boy
"@ QB why would anyone stuff a font these days?"

i dunno, i just asked the sleeve designer what the font was and did he have a copy, and he mailed me that .sit file :?

anyhoo, cheers to mik for that one. its done the job nicely :notworthy:

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 23:49
by paint it black
Motz wrote:
James Blast wrote: @ QB why would anyone stuff a font these days?
I'm not QB (honest :roll:), but I'll answer anyway.

While stuffing a single file isn't going to save you much, when you're hosting thousands of fonts and serving many downloads of each of them, the bandwidth/disk-space costs add up and a saving in the order of kilobytes per file can have an effect on your bandwidth in the order of gigabytes.
truely the font of all knowledge :lol: :lol:

*coat on, door open*

Posted: 02 Sep 2005, 10:20
by markfiend
Thanks for the help everyone.

Rather stupidly I didn't look at the fonts I already have (about 100 of them :roll:) before asking my question; I've found several...

The one that best suits what I was looking for appears to be Hoefler Text:
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