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For the first time in ages I came across 1959 and all that yesterday, and got to read the part about the Vision Thing album. I was quite surprised to read something I never seem to have read before on there

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A picture of a city is faintly visible on the sleeve; this is seen to best effect on the vinyl version of the album. Various cities have thus far been `definitively' cited as the one depicted.

I never even noticed it on my cd, always thought it was plain black, and for my vinyl, I thought someone with very fatty fingers had been touching it Well, it is a second hand thingy after all, isn't it...

But, as I never heard, or noticed, anything about this before (not on here nor on dominion) and the site states it as something quite obvious, what cities have been the definitive ones, or which one is

Hmm, just had a peer at the CD, but not easy to make anything distinctive
out. Does seem to be some kind of tower/smokestack on the right lower third - if this is a wind up

Indeed, on the cd that was all I could notice too, had to take the booklet out to see it though...

On the vinyl's sleeve there's more clouds to see spread over the complete bottom, I think, hence the fatty fingers

I lost the sleeve to my VT CD. I'll have to get it on vinyl

I just dug it out and there is something. I'd always thought it was just wear and tear tbh.

Cleveland?

Very, very faint. Might the tower be the Empire State Building? It would figure, after all.

You seem to be able to see it here, or is that just a bad scan...

"Sleeve designed by Tony James & Andrew Eldritch" if that's any help

Obviousman wrote:You seem to be able to see it here, or is that just a bad scan...

Quite clear there.

For whatever reason I think it's the ancient city of Alexandria. I know the Horus thing is Egyptian but it's the right era

I'm quite sure there is a old topic around here somewhere.
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I have been looking but I cant find anything

It is clearer on the vinyl album cover than the CD. There's been some debate as to whether the city is Hamburg, Detroit or another.

been there, done that

detroit, home of the stooges

Any chance of a bit more elaboration? Source?

Andrew S wrote:It is clearer on the vinyl album cover than the CD. There's been some debate as to whether the city is Hamburg, Detroit or another.

...That's due to the inescapable fact that everything (everything mind you) is clearer on vinyl;

visibly, audibly, morally, eroticaly. The list, frankly, is endless.

P.S. It's definitely Scarborough. Even though I'm biased, and pissed.

ruffers wrote:Any chance of a bit more elaboration? Source?

_emma_, polish interview 91 (i think).

i added the stooges cross-reference myself coz it made sense to

I noticed that on the CD cover when I bought it because I had read the 1959 site beforehand. It's very hardy to make out though, you'd of thought Andrew would of made it clearer to see.

I'm sure this thread has been trodden before..

my response at the time was that its VERY reminiscent of the aerial photography done of US cities in the 20s and 30s.. There's an archive of the stuff somewhere online.. it could well be one of those images...

I will investigate more...

I always thought it was New York (two towers,eh?).. and I stick to it until someone bring us the real fact.

I'm sure I read somewhere ages ago that it's a 1920/30s "metropolis" look, with something vaguely resembling the Chrysler Building in there somewhere. I first noticed it on my cassette album way back in 1990 and thought it was a bit of a heavy-handed printing gaff. Hardly see it on my CD insert, though.

Detriot was mentioned. Scarborough wasn't.

TheBoyNextDoor wrote:I always thought it was New York (two towers,eh?).. and I stick to it until someone bring us the real fact.

Paint it Black already has...you should read the whole thread
if it hadn't have been i would have hazarded a guess at dallas as vt refers to the kennedy assassination,doesn't it? ,-"one blinding flash of sense/just like the president's" and "another motherfucker in a motorcade".

paint it black wrote:

ruffers wrote:Any chance of a bit more elaboration? Source?

_emma_, polish interview 91 (i think).

i added the stooges cross-reference myself coz it made sense to

Any clues where we can find that one?

Looked all over the interview&reviews section, but nothing there...

From a manipulated cd cover. I guess it would be better to scan the lp version.

Jesus! I'd never noticed that big "Eye" thingy before

A chimney and lots of smog,is it Middlesbrough?

That's New York City.