Heartland

The Scotsman

The collapse at school of an eleven-year old girl from withdrawal symptoms leads to an official statement suspecting as many as fifty primary school children may be experimenting with, or already addicted to, Class-A drugs.

Discuss.

clearly she hasn't learned to save herself a toot for the morning, before seting off to flog brickdust to her classmates.

ONLY STUPID BASTARDS DO HEROIN

Am I the only one who was convinced by the context of the title that "Underage Drug Abuse" was a band?

so that's why... it explains last week, a lot...

Motz wrote:Am I the only one who was convinced by the context of the title that "Underage Drug Abuse" was a band?

You're not

Sad record though, but don't know what more to say

Tim Sinister: Now With Added Confusion. You Can Just Taste The Ambiguity!

Sorry chaps.

Have we become such a jaded people that something like this can't knock us for six? I look forward to comments from the MacHeartlanders who know Glasge, and can give us the Real Deal (Patent Pending).

eastmidswhizzkid wrote:clearly she hasn't learned to save herself a toot for the morning, before seting off to flog brickdust to her classmates.

ONLY STUPID BASTARDS DO HEROIN

An official press release from the Heartland Narcotics Division.

Terrifying story this. Leads me to the question: What's different in Scotland?

Timsinisters link wrote:The researchers found that children aged between ten and 12 north of the Border were twice as likely to take drugs as their English counterparts.

Drug users seem to be getting younger and younger these days. In William S. Burroughs book Junky, if my memory is correct, there is a scene near the end where Burroughs is surprised to find on his return to America that most the drug users and dealers are in their late teens and early twenties, where as when he was in America all the junkies were in their 30s and 40s.

I find all this rather disturbing because the younger a person is the less developed their brain is, which means higher risk of it being badly damaged by drugs like Speed and Heroin.

Why a child of eleven would be messing around with heroin, I don't know.

@Lee, I've been doing some research and believe it or not but amphetamines and methamphetamine are actually worse for you than heroin.

canon docre wrote:Terrifying story this. Leads me to the question: What's different in Scotland?

Timsinisters link wrote:The researchers found that children aged between ten and 12 north of the Border were twice as likely to take drugs as their English counterparts.

Aye, we've always been ahead of our time us Scot's!

It was Glue & Solvent abuse that kids of that age were getting addicted to, dying/collapsing from, drugs in Schools around (Hash was only just being used by under 18s) Midlothian were almost unheard off, a "Junkie" was someone who smoked dope!!!, "UHU", "Evostick" & "Tip-ex Thinners" were cheap and easy to get, just as drugs are today, the papers were full horror stories then as they are about this today. It seems to days Drugs are yesterdays Solvents, a sign of the times

At first, reading Tim's first post, I thought what they meant was 50 kids in the whole of the UK, using any Class A drug (ecstasy, cocaine etc. as well as heroin). And I've got to say my response was - "meh, surprised it's not more".

But 50 kids on heroin in Glasgow alone - to be honest that still doesn't surprise me, but it's very sad indeed.

Reason I'm not shocked is simply that I know what a record Scotland has for heroin use, and it's very bad indeed. I'm not sure what the reasons are though - I'd hazard a guess at the relative poverty of certain urban areas of this country in comparison to the rest of the UK (indeed, certain areas of Glasgow are allegedly some of the most deprived in the whole of Europe). There is a big heroin problem in North Sea coastal towns such as Fraserborough and Wick, apparently because of boats bringing their illegal cargo in.

Aside from that I really don't know, although I imagine a quick Google would be quite enlightening. It's not a nice state of affairs, that's for sure - but I've bumped into little urchins in my time who I'm sure know more about the dark and nasty underbelly of life than any of us do .

Glesga's full to the brim with junkies/stoner's/jaikey's - the bloody lot! If they're no on the bus, they're on the clockwork orange or walking past you in the street. I live right next to 2 high rises in the Gorbal's, you see some sites believe me! Yet I've never once felt in danger of having a knife pulled on me.

I'm sorry but this story ain't new or a surprise, but only because it's a regular occurence in this city.

Tim Sinister and Boudicca - The Chantelle and Preston of Heartlands

Ed Rhombus wrote:Tim Sinister and Boudicca - The Chantelle and Preston of Heartlands

because they're young?, or they're a couple of Chavs at heart?

Ohmygod! Ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod!

The capital of Luxembourg is Belgium, innit?













I will kill you now.

boudicca wrote:Ohmygod! Ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod!

The capital of Luxembourg is Belgium, innit?













I will kill you now.

I think the Belgians will start doing that to you

Sire, Il n'y-a plus des Belges

It's called Brussels by the way

No surprise to me really. I look around me and I'm sure it's not much better than Glasgow, I prefer the people up there anyway. I don't think I'd be generalising by saying it's the effect of Thatcherism (which is still going strong). I think people use stuff basically to numb themselves to how crappy things are. We live in a society that doesn't care and there's no spirituality or whatever that supports people. If they were educated that might help as well.

Driven wrote:No surprise to me really. I look around me and I'm sure it's not much better than Glasgow, I prefer the people up there anyway. I don't think I'd be generalising by saying it's the effect of Thatcherism (which is still going strong). I think people use stuff basically to numb themselves to how crappy things are. We live in a society that doesn't care and there's no spirituality or whatever that supports people. If they were educated that might help as well.

People don’t need spiritualism to be supported. That’s a fallacy.

As long as I don't have to wear those stupid f**king glasses or cut my hair. Or become indie.

Come to Newmarket and the town is full of snorting coke heads! (not me)

A certain Mr.Dettori a few years ago was cought snorting.


It seems now to be the popular drug these days.What are the long term psychological effects of the drug?

I can understand the usual p*ss head, but a coke head I find more disturbing

Aye, and come to Dublin and you can see quite a lot of it too, although we're a heroin city rather than coke.

Where I live is a heroin town, although there's a fair b it of cocaine now. A lot of the kids are nice chaps, it's quite depressing seeing them drop like flies.

gives a whole new meaning to 'horse' learn and move on...
Next!

Lost a good friend to drugs, and it's not just a sock thing. Dunno why people need drugs - never seen the appeal of them - gimme alcohol anyday...

esox wrote:Dunno why people need drugs - never seen the appeal of them - gimme alcohol anyday...

I don't know if that was sarcasm, but if it wasn't, let me spell it out for you: alcohol is a drug that kills more people every year than heroin and crack combined. I got that from Bill Hicks, so it must be true!

No, but seriously, it does get on my tits when I see people drinking or smoking condemning other drug users.