Cage's 4:33

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OK there is no sound to it (or is there?) but it is a stimulating and thought provoking piece of 'music'.
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and here is an mp3 of it
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Art for arts sake?
Do you think he has any sense of irony or is he serious?
Apparently the musicians (?) had music sheets that they turned over after each movement.
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On another forum, discussion of this ran to many pages. It's a load of w@nk though innit?
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I might just buy it. I could do with a bit of peace and quiet around here.
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Red Sunsets wrote:and here is an mp3 of it
@ Red Sunsets :notworthy:

The "MP3" link you post appears to not work - or was that the whole point :wink:
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AndyTheGoth wrote:
Red Sunsets wrote:and here is an mp3 of it
@ Red Sunsets :notworthy:

The "MP3" link you post appears to not work - or was that the whole point :wink:
Oh Andy. :roll:
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Steve303 wrote:
AndyTheGoth wrote:
Red Sunsets wrote:and here is an mp3 of it
@ Red Sunsets :notworthy:

The "MP3" link you post appears to not work - or was that the whole point :wink:
Oh Andy. :roll:
@ Steve 303 - Please excuse my idiocy - I have bad head cold - hence I can not hear anything clearly ;-)
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4'33? Nice gimmick. Good means of making a point.

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andymackem wrote:4'33? Nice gimmick. Good means of making a point.

Once.

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Do you really think he was making a point Andy?
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Steve:

Yeah. The whole thing about how noise varies depending on context. The way everyday sounds are perceived differently against a backdrop of "silence" rather than in the background to something else.

To an extent it also sends up the absurdity of the grand concert tradition: blokes in full dress suits performing hugely emotionally intense music in front of a politely receptive but largely unmoved audience. It's almost ridiculous, but is sustained by an on-going and unquestioned tradition.

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wouldnt it be nice if they invented slience?

i mean, you could pop it into your system or put it in your discman and it would be just silence...no background sounds. Just silence.
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Or you could not put it on at all and don't talk............And there you have it, silence without running the batteries down!
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Red Sunsets wrote:OK there is no sound to it (or is there?) but it is a stimulating and thought provoking piece of 'music'.
I like minimalism and all, but this is just taking it a little to far i think.
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Red Sunsets wrote:and here is an mp3 of it
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andymackem wrote:Steve:

Yeah. The whole thing about how noise varies depending on context. The way everyday sounds are perceived differently against a backdrop of "silence" rather than in the background to something else.
That's a good point.
But why 4:33?
Why not 5:12 or 2:56 or 25:46?
Is 4 minutes and 33 seconds just the right space of time needed to apprehend or seize this?

I do agree though, that under the right circumstances, sitting for 4:33 in silence in the middle of a minimalist concert can be enjoyable, maybe, i have yet to experience that.
To an extent it also sends up the absurdity of the grand concert tradition: blokes in full dress suits performing hugely emotionally intense music in front of a politely receptive but largely unmoved audience. It's almost ridiculous, but is sustained by an on-going and unquestioned tradition.

Maybe. We'll see.
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To be honest, a couple of years ago i was looking for cage's music in Kazaa and i did find a "4:33" mp3. I obviously thought, what the hell, why would there be an mp3 of this, am i missing something, but downloaded it anyway and... well, you got it, it was as expected 4:33 of silence. So now i know that 4 minutes of silence take 4 mb of disc space :)
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zigeunerweisen wrote:To be honest, a couple of years ago i was looking for cage's music in Kazaa and i did find a "4:33" mp3. I obviously thought, what the hell, why would there be an mp3 of this, am i missing something, but downloaded it anyway and... well, you got it, it was as expected 4:33 of silence. So now i know that 4 minutes of silence take 4 mb of disc space :)
I hope you've got it at a high bit-rate :? :roll: :wink:
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But of course, i want quality in my silence ;D
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