T.S Eliot

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I've been reading T.S Eliot alot lately and I have noticed something.

Andrew Eldritch makes reference to alot of T.S Eliots prose and poetry during the "embryonic stage" of the Sisters. 1981 - 1983

Is Eldritch a fan of Eliot? He has very good taste if he is :notworthy:

The m*****n also made a reference with their song "The Waste Land"

Was That Guitarist a fan, or did he steal the idea from Eldritch?

Eldritch isn't the only one to reference writers and poets.

Jim Morrison made reference to William Blake all the time.

Lou read also made a reference to the book "Junky" by William S.Burroughs in the Velvet Underground songs "Heroin" and "Waiting for the Man"
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Weird. I had just bumped into this site before seeing this thread
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nick the stripper wrote:
Is Eldritch a fan of Eliot?
Yup.
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Hmm... literary Eldritch. Songs about speed, speed and more speed, with the occasional mirror, gun, knife, boulevard, red light or girl, but "mostly about speed", haven't got a real lot to do with Voltaire or Gabriel Garcia Marquez, now do they, mate. Not even Dirk Hartog gets a mention.
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Black Biscuit wrote:Hmm... literary Eldritch. Songs about speed, speed and more speed, with the occasional mirror, gun, knife boulevard, red light or girl, but "mostly about speed", haven't got a real lot to do with Voltaire or Gabriel Garcia Marquez, now do they, mate. Not even Dirk Hartog gets a mention.
"this song's about christopher marlowe"

same gig :wink:
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Is there a point here? is it me? i mean - please...!

The Rules:-

1) - Get an education
2) - Get a Drug Habit
3) - Get a life.....

sorry matey, just getting a little tired of the endless rhetoric re :von:

he does not care...why the hell should you/we/me/us etc etc...

so in 1980 and freezing to death he quoted blah blah in blah blah....wtf!!!!!!!!!!

Not Fuckin relevant in the 21'st Century. Period.

Have you noticed that most topics on this board are bugger all to do with His Royal Ego??? they are about music, football, books, films, who is drinking where and when, who is watching what...

I may be wrong, and very probably am, but it is becoming more a meeting place for people who are Pissed Off at The Lack Of Action and just want to gossip about bollox, rather than yer hardcore "does phantom/alice have a direct relevance on 20th century austira and its political uprising - discuss" kinda board...

then again, it could be down to my depressed state of mind and the huge quantity of alcohol i have consumed in the last 3 hours...

Either way, WTF!

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Calm down lads!

Good to see yer broadening yer horizons and all that, young Nick! ;D
Wish I had the concentration to look for all these things. :|

BTW, it's "Wasteland"... :innocent:
...sorry I'm a pedant.
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I'm mostly with you Dave R... except when someone comes up with a genuinely new insight ;)

No offence intended to nick the stripper.
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I wasn't actually talking about quotes from interviews.

I was talking about references he makes in his lyrics.

For instance in "Floorshow" the lyrics about "The violet hour" is taken from the Waste Land.

I did some more research on it and found an excellent website called "1959" which has a lot of info on the lyrics.

I was trying to figure out what the lyrics ment and I found a LOT of references to T.S Eliot.

I was hoping that it would make the lyrics easier for me to understand.

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It doesn't really bother me if Eldritch never releases a new album, it's his life and he can do what he wants with it, if he chooses to never release a new album it doesn't bother me.

I see no point in sitting around complaining about it.

I have also noticed some people get upset by the remarks Andrew makes about some of his fans.

I take what he says with a pinch of salt.

Most of the time he says these remarks tongue in cheek, and merely says the comment to stir some controversy, and most of us fall for this trick every time.
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Stop digging Nick.
And you know that she's half crazy but that's why you want to be there.
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Sorry :oops:
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Dave R wrote:

then again, it could be down to my depressed state of mind
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depressed state of mind? Why? :?
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nick the stripper wrote:Sorry :oops:
problem is you went to the wrong place, should go to lyrics. nobody goes there and so it's safe to discuss thompson, eliot, pound, davenant, conrad et al. til your heart's content :wink:
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