Emma/Uptown Ranking

Obviousman · 09 Aug 2005, 21:29

Well, as I just made a quick transcription of what Von made of these lyrics, which will probably be a complete rubbish one (but anyhow):

What could it be with this thing that I seem to get as 'garden shed' (

) that doens't seem to be in the original... Any more thoughts on why exactly this song and these parts of it...
When combining those ("garden shed" & "uptown ranking") two in a google search I seem to get something by some guy called John Moore, which I'm unfamiliar with, so...

Watch how we chuck and ting
In the garden shed and ting
Love is all I bring
In the garden shed and ting
Nah pop no pop no style, Nah pop no style,
Nah pop no pop no style, Nah pop no style

See mi pon the dream and white from constant spinning
See mi pon the dream, and donâ€™t know, no, no, know nothing

Gimme likkle bass, make me wine up me waist
In the garden shed and ting
Gimme likkle bass, make me wine up me waist
In the garden shed and ting
See me onna roady, a-call out for me
See mi in mi Benz and ting
See me in a motorway
See me be a heart attack
Check out the jamming and ting
Up town top ranking
See me in the jamming and thing
Up town top ranking
Top rank it

See me in the jamming and thing
Up town
Top rank it

See me in the jamming and thing
Up town
Top rank it

Corrections would be very welcome

ruffers · 09 Aug 2005, 23:22

I haven't heard this yet, christ almighty though. Maybe it's better than it sounds.

aims · 09 Aug 2005, 23:23

It's a cover. Von only covers songs that amuse him, so it figures

ruffers · 09 Aug 2005, 23:26

I'm aware it's a cover, I may even have the original somewhere. But when the Sisters are doing "mash up's" then it truly isn't the band I first saw in 1985.

NB this is not necessarily a bad thing.

<edit> rethink. It probably is in this case.

paint it black · 09 Aug 2005, 23:27

Watch how we chuck it and ting
In a khaki suit and ting
Love is all I bring in me khaki suit and ting
No pop, no cop?, no style,
No pop no style,
No pop, no cop?, no style,
No pop no style,

See me on benzedrine??
Drivin' through Constant Spring
Them sey me ??
But dem
dem know nothing

Gimme little bass, gimmie me wind up me waist
??
Gimme little bass, gimmie me wind up me waist
??

See me on the road and you call out to me
see me in me pants and ting
See me inna 'alter back
See me give you heart attack

Check how we jamming and ting
Uptown Top Ranking

Check how we jamming and ting
Uptown Top Ranking

Check how we jamming and ting
Uptown Top Ranking

Dan · 10 Aug 2005, 01:03

Garden shed / khaki suit?
I hear it as garden shirt.

CellThree · 10 Aug 2005, 01:14

Found it :

ALTHIA & DONNA - Uptown Top Ranking

See me in me heels and ting
Dem check sey we hip and ting
True them no know and ting
We have them going and ting
Nah pop no style, a strictly roots
Nah pop no style, a strictly roots

See me pon the road I hear you call out to me
True you see mi inna pants and ting
See mi in a 'alter back
Sey mi gi' you heart attack
Gimme likkle bass, make me wine up me waist
Uptown Top Ranking

See mi in mi Benz and ting
Drivin' through Constant Spring
Them check sey me come from cosmo spring
But a true dem no know and ting
Dem no know sey we top ranking
Uptown Top Ranking

Shoulda see me and the ranking dread
Check how we jamming and ting
Love is all I bring inna me khaki suit and ting
Nah pop no style, a strictly roots
Nah pop no style, a strictly roots

Watch how we chuck it and ting
Inna we khaki suit and ting
Love is all I bring inna me khaki suit and ting
Nah pop no style, a strictly roots
Nah pop no style, a strictly roots

Love inna you heart dis a bawl out fe me
When you see me inna pants and ting
See me inna 'alter back
Sey me gi' you heart attack
Gimme likkle bass, make me wine up me waist
Uptown Top Ranking

See mi pon the road and hear you call out to me
True you see me in me pants and ting
See me inna 'alter back
Sey me gi' you heart attack
Gimme likkle bass, make me wine up me waist
Gimme likkle bass, make me wine up me waist
Love is all I bring inna me khaki suit and ting
Nah pop no style, a strictly roots
Nah pop no style, a strictly roots

You shoulda see me and the ranking dread,
Check how we jamming and ting
Love is all I bring inna me khaki suit and ting
Nah pop no style, a strictly roots
Nah pop no style, a strictly roots

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.hart/ ... lthia.html

Video ( a cover, but all I can find) : http://www.delaatsteshow.be/video/files/206/breed.wmv

Dan · 10 Aug 2005, 01:34

CellThree wrote:Found it :

We already knew the original lyrics... Von's changed some of the words and thems the ones we're trying to work out.

CellThree · 10 Aug 2005, 01:37

ah well, that'll teach me to skim read other threads then

paint it black · 10 Aug 2005, 08:55

either way, it's crap isn't it

the guitars for emma are ace though, bring back the real thing

11 Aug 2005, 10:53

sounded to me like it was supposed to be emma but von forgot to start singing, and so in the end he did an impromptu burst of "uptown..."

the music is basically emma. guitars, bass line, etc etc. its just emma.

dunno if its chris or adam or both that join in towards teh end but that sounds like one of those things they could have been a rehearsal p*ss-about, and that ended up being done on stage after von f**ked it up.

quite amusing though whatever the reasoning behind it

timsinister · 12 Aug 2005, 08:55

I liked it.

Dan · 12 Aug 2005, 15:38

Quiff Boy wrote:sounded to me like it was supposed to be emma but von forgot to start singing, and so in the end he did an impromptu burst of "uptown..."

I really doubt it was off the cuff. Herr Eldritch never does anything that hasn't been meticulously planned.

12 Aug 2005, 15:54

Dan wrote:
Quiff Boy wrote:sounded to me like it was supposed to be emma but von forgot to start singing, and so in the end he did an impromptu burst of "uptown..."
I really doubt it was off the cuff. Herr Eldritch never does anything that hasn't been meticulously planned.

nah, its an aborted attempt at emma. i'd put money on it!

listen to the way it just ends... very abrupt. somehow "the nurse" knew that it was time to end the song, so stoppe dthe dok at the end of the next bar. probably the way von was howling gave it away - he's worked with him long enough to know that when he does that its building up to a climax.

otherwise they would have let the song take as long to build up as it does. its ages before eldo comes in with the vox... they never leave it that long. barring the odd track or two they seem to prefer 4 min pop songs where von starts singing after the first few "intro" bars.

i think he just missed his cue, couldnt work out a way of coming back in "gracefully" (the words would make it very obvious if he missed a verse, or even just a line) so decided to "wing it" and improvise

at least one other member of the band knew the words and thus joined in. maybe they had already pissed about at rehearsals with some form of jam, maybe chris heard the riff and went "s**t! thats just like 'uptown top ranking'!!" and it all went downhill from there

i dont know. either way, there's just something about it that doesnt sound planned to me.

plus i like the thought that they could still manage to improvise after all these years, and with a tightly programmed drum & backing track

fair play to them

ruffers · 12 Aug 2005, 16:18

I just had a listen from the link posted on Dominion, deffo emma. Seems to me it goes wrong at the kick off,. Whoever is on "lead" guitar duty comes in too early, there was supposed to another chord before that then he should come in after that.

From that point Emma's knackered and t becomes a jam session.

Obviousman · 12 Aug 2005, 18:31

Well, if it was but a jam session, it was an incredibly good one... I think that takes quite some nerves to do that in front of such an audience

And indeed, it sounds like it's not sounding like it was meant to be so... When the backing vocal(s) start singing along, it is done with a whole lot of doubt, or so it seems...

12 Aug 2005, 19:00

ruffers wrote:Whoever is on "lead" guitar duty comes in too early, there was supposed to another chord before that then he should come in after that.

havent listened back but if you're right then it wouldnt surprise me. presumably adam would have been busy rehearsing with mc5 and chris was a fairly late recruit... maybe their minds were on other things...

listening to the recording of tilburg, they make a right hash of dr jeep too. by the time of thr 1st chorus eldritch is completely out because of the guitars

still, its rock and roll innit? who cares if its planned or not.

christophe · 12 Aug 2005, 19:59

Quiff Boy wrote: listening to the recording of tilburg, they make a right hash of dr jeep too. by the time of thr 1st chorus eldritch is completely out because of the guitars

yep, I was thinking that myself, I haven't got a chance to hear the Tilburg gig again but from my recolection one of the gitars had trouble getting the dr jeep tune right.
I don't know about Emma,it sounds good to me. Von seemd to like it aswel, or did he sing it that loud to fool us?

anyway, we'll problably never know, it was something unique and i'm graetfull for that

Brad · 13 Aug 2005, 00:36

The cock-up would also explain why the setlist has it stated as Emma.

Reminiscient of the improptu "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" back in Chicago in 1991.

Dark · 13 Aug 2005, 09:49

And even that was then given a regular outing for a few gigs after.

Even at the Pukkelpop Festival in 1992 where it wasn't sung a capella, Von fitted it in nicely to Sister Ray.

13 Aug 2005, 10:22

Dark wrote:And even that was then given a regular outing for a few gigs after.

Even at the Pukkelpop Festival in 1992 where it wasn't sung a capella, Von fitted it in nicely to Sister Ray.

Where's the weed for that?

Dark · 13 Aug 2005, 10:28

Hom_Corleone wrote:
Dark wrote:And even that was then given a regular outing for a few gigs after.

Even at the Pukkelpop Festival in 1992 where it wasn't sung a capella, Von fitted it in nicely to Sister Ray.
Where's the weed for that?

There isn't one, but I still have it from a friend in Lincoln.

Having no CD-Rs at the moment, weeding would prove rather a challenge. However, I CAN mp3 each file and put it into soulseek if that'll do for anyone.

To be honest, it's not a great gig anyway, just Sister Ray is worth it.

eastmidswhizzkid · 13 Aug 2005, 12:21

Quiff Boy wrote:still, its rock and roll innit? who cares if its planned or not.

abso-fuckin'-lutely!

Brad · 13 Aug 2005, 15:59

And while we're citing precedent for cock-ups, how about the "More" turned into improptu "Louie, Louie" in Leysin 07-10-93?

eastmidswhizzkid · 14 Aug 2005, 05:32

or the "so you want lyrics as well" (or thereabouts) alice from york racecourse festival -alice starts; von doesn't;quip; alice resarts.

and my absolute fave from nottingham rock city, black october tour:
band come on ;doktor plays intro to burn;guitars start as doktor stops.
quick burst of drum-machine ;doktor plays intro to burn;guitars start as doktor stops.
band give up :play heartland .drums f**k up at end.
von:"we have to attend to our machinery...."
.....(random abuse from audience -"fuckin' hippy wankers!"etc)
von:[two octaves higher and rising] listen,you can get these songs the wrong way and you can get these songs the right way:if you wait a couple of minutes we can get these songs the right way;so i suggest you shut up for a while and TALK AMONG YOURSELVES!"

but of course it's always planned!

*wild paraphrasing courtesy of emwk -''not 'quite right' since 1970.''