Does exactly what it says on the tin. Some of the nonsense contained herein may be very loosely related to The Sisters of Mercy, but I wouldn't bet your PayPal account on it. In keeping with the internet's general theme nothing written here should be taken as Gospel: over three quarters of it is utter gibberish, and most of the forum's denizens haven't spoken to another human being face-to-face for decades. Don't worry your pretty little heads about it. Above all else, remember this: You don't have to stay forever. I will understand.
Dodges Unlimited Inc. wrote:Anyway, I trust your 'in-law' is feeling Minty Fresh now? - Nearly time for Mint 7 'Gloria' too! - I hope it is even better than Felicia?!
Aye, I'm tempted by the Gloria RC for this computer...
I still like my old Mac though, I had it dual-booting with Xubuntu for a while but it kept fncking up the system clock and the screen resolution for some reason. Back to OSX now.
But never Microsoft
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
Dodges Unlimited Inc. wrote:Anyway, I trust your 'in-law' is feeling Minty Fresh now? - Nearly time for Mint 7 'Gloria' too! - I hope it is even better than Felicia?!
Aye, I'm tempted by the Gloria RC for this computer...
I still like my old Mac though, I had it dual-booting with Xubuntu for a while but it kept fncking up the system clock and the screen resolution for some reason. Back to OSX now.
But never Microsoft
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silentNate wrote:
Do people who believe in god (or gods) automatically believe in the devil btw? Is it a ying/yang thing where one cannot exist without the other?
Depends how you read some of the Holy Books. In some, Satan (a translation of adversary),is mans prosecutor before God, and not remotely evil. Lucifer (bringer of light) was a term applied to a particularly ostentatious and proud king who lost his kingdom.
I think the Old Testament God, who was a decidedly nasty bit of work, was judged a bit too unsympathetic, so his bad points get transferred to a powerful opposite, the rebellious fallen angel, a story pinched from the old Sumerian religion.
silentNate wrote:
Do people who believe in god (or gods) automatically believe in the devil btw? Is it a ying/yang thing where one cannot exist without the other?
Depends how you read some of the Holy Books. In some, Satan (a translation of adversary),is mans prosecutor before God, and not remotely evil. Lucifer (bringer of light) was a term applied to a particularly ostentatious and proud king who lost his kingdom.
I think the Old Testament God, who was a decidedly nasty bit of work, was judged a bit too unsympathetic, so his bad points get transferred to a powerful opposite, the rebellious fallen angel, a story pinched from the old Sumerian religion.
Yeah, I was reading about the role of Satan in the Torah earlier- which brought me back to Lilith and subservence of women in most religions
I had a face on the mirror
I had a hand on the gun
I had a place in the sun and a ticket to Syria
silentNate wrote:
Yeah, I was reading about the role of Satan in the Torah earlier- which brought me back to Lilith and subservence of women in most religions
Lilith is even more interesting. By todays standards, she's almost the heroine of the story about her and Adam. Probably she was meant as a warning against standing up to your menfolk, or being sexually liberated, like many women in non-Judaic cultures were.
No, think the Lilith story is Apocrypha at best. Looking at that she's been pinched from earlier Sumerian mythology. Much like the rebel angel storyline of Semjaaza, and Tiamat/ Leviathan.
To be fair most of Judaic mythology (apart from the Caananite pantheon from which El and Yahweh, along with Asherah, Baal, and various other gods mentioned in the Old Testament originate) is very heavily influenced by Sumerian / Akkadian / Babylonian myth.
I'm not sure if this dates from the Babylonian exile (after all, the Levite priesthood would have been steeped in the mythology of their captors) or if it was a more general mythology across much of the ancient Middle-East.
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
markfiend wrote:To be fair most of Judaic mythology (apart from the Caananite pantheon from which El and Yahweh, along with Asherah, Baal, and various other gods mentioned in the Old Testament originate) is very heavily influenced by Sumerian / Akkadian / Babylonian myth.
I'm not sure if this dates from the Babylonian exile (after all, the Levite priesthood would have been steeped in the mythology of their captors) or if it was a more general mythology across much of the ancient Middle-East.
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The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
Genesis 6:4 wrote:There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
The Hebrew word the KJV translators gloss as "giants" is "Nephilim".
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
They're the reason for the Flood, if I remember correctly--along with Cain's descendants through Lamech.
On the subject of venting my spleen, I'll be doing so tonight, giving a lengthy paper on Tocqueville and Nietzsche to a local group. Probably lengthier than they want, to be perfectly honest.
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The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
