Plausible Deniability

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I can beat you on first trip to Leeds Angel, 1981. I shared a flat with a reet Yorksheer Man all the way through art school, I went down to visit him in his stately home town in the hamlet, them as call Armley. Ever since then when I say been to Leeds and stayed in Armley, everyone says 'where the jail is?'

York is where I will retire to... aye oop! wha's gettin' them Tetleys in?

Ah'll si' thi
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Well you have the advantage of being a smidgeon older than me to have been travelling around then and having a groovy time of things :) :wink:
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In 1980 that was a lotta money.
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"Hares Ave., Leeds,8," isn't Kirkstall either, it's Harehills.
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markfiend wrote:"Hares Ave., Leeds,8," isn't Kirkstall either, it's Harehills.
Mr QB "lived next door" :wink: ;D
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markfiend wrote:"Hares Ave., Leeds,8," isn't Kirkstall either, it's Harehills.
Mr QB "lived next door" :wink: ;D
How big were his rats?
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Red Sunsets wrote:I can beat you on first trip to Leeds Angel, 1981. I shared a flat with a reet Yorksheer Man all the way through art school, I went down to visit him in his stately home town in the hamlet, them as call Armley. Ever since then when I say been to Leeds and stayed in Armley, everyone says 'where the jail is?'

York is where I will retire to... aye oop! wha's gettin' them Tetleys in?

Ah'll si' thi
We lived in Armley from the time Junior was born upto a couple of years ago. That's part of dodge city as well, tho with much less students and far more natives. I don't recommend it for a night out.
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I can second that. Mrs markfiend used to teach at Wortley High, just down the road from Armley. It's an... interesting place.
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James wrote:I was gonna post this in the closure topic but got a bit carried away, so I thought I'd start a new topic.Maybe a competition, who can predict the next excuse and its scapegoat?
My view is quite simple.

The Sisters are a big enough band,

The sisters DONT have any decent new material

NO reocrd company are going to inviest money in a band with no decent new material and not have access to the back catalogue.

Is shoet The sisters need to write some Decent material ie get in some more creative people write some killer tracks then the record companies come running.

just my two penneth

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That last post came from way out of nowhere... oh I remember what this thread is about now.
Well I like all the new tracks, not one of them that's is below par. Your comment about the back catalogue rings very true tho.
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markfiend wrote:I can second that. Mrs markfiend used to teach at Wortley High, just down the road from Armley. It's an... interesting place.
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Blimey! I only visited the place twice and seemed OK back in the dim and distant 80s. :)
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Snub, did you just post that to show off the 'dancing emoticons'?
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Red Sunsets wrote:Snub, did you just post that to show off the 'dancing emoticons'?
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Thank You
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mh wrote:
Quiff Boy wrote:mrs qb was talking to a woman she works with last week and they happened to start talking about 80s bands. she mentioned to her mate that i was quite enamoured of the sisters and her mate proclaimed "andrew eldritch! my dad's a builder and recently refitted his house and studio!"

:D :D :D
So we may not get a new LP, but just check out Von's kitchen!!!
Kitchens!, I knew I'd find the connection eventually ;D
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James wrote:I was gonna post this in the closure topic but got a bit carried away, so I thought I'd start a new topic.

I think that Von would make a good politician. He seems to have mastered the game of "plausible deniability." Despite being the nucleus of the band, Von has continually distanced himself from any of the factors the are (supposedly) preventing the release of new material.

My hazy recollection:

1995- 1997 - We can't release anything because the morons at the record company are trying to starve us into submission for their own short-term goals. [Okay, fair enough. We accept it’s the record company's fault, we're looking forward to those independent singles]

1998? - Adam is moving house (or was it building a studio?), things are on hold until that's done. [It's Adam that's causing the delay]

1999? - Change of plan, we are working on an album, inter alia, but the matter of single releases is currently on hold.

2000? - Can't seem to negotiate USA distribution [record company's fault]

2001 - We've spoken to major record companies, they all seem supportive, until financial backing is discussed. [It's the record company's fault]

2002 - Chris is compiling a DVD [so if that never sees the light of day, It'll be Chris' fault]

2003 - We keep presenting material, record companies keep knocking it back [record company's fault]
Interviewer: How about using the internet?
Von: "Adam won't let us use his material for promo purposes" [Adam's fault, Nice catch-22, should buy a few more years]

Does anyone really beleive all this? Did I miss any of the excuses? Is the order correct?

Mabye we can start a poll "what has been your favourite excuse for no studio output?"

Maybe a competition, who can predict the next excuse and its scapegoat?
June 2016 - Promises new album if Trump is elected.

Nov 2016 - Trump is elected

2017 - No new album

2018 - No new album
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Did the Chairman confiscate his laptop between '03 and '16 or was Von just too busy touring to cover his Vet bills :)
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2019 - no new album

2020 - global nuclear war. Von puts out the album, titled "Told You So", but we're all dead so nobody cares.
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AdrenaChris wrote:2019 - no new album

2020 - global nuclear war. Von puts out the album, titled "Told You So", but we're all dead so nobody cares.
... :lol: ... anyway ... It's a Far Parade ... ... :innocent: ... but if it makes him happy ... :wink: ...
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...if Trump gets elected then maybe...

Oh, s**t!
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VonOben wrote:...if Trump gets elected then maybe...

Oh, s**t!
Like most of the world, I think he assumed it would never happen. “I’m on safe ground here,� he thought. “There’s no way anyone will expect another record!�
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He should have known better. I was under no illusion that it was anything other than a near certainty, the current world being very conducive.
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