VoC - which is the Australian one?

Being645 · 21 Mar 2011, 18:27

Please help ...

I've searched the whole trading section but didn't find out which of these two CD-bootlegs is the Australian Victims Of Circumstance ...

Tracklists differ. The yellow one includes Wide Receiver at the end.

Anybody know?

radiojamaica · 21 Mar 2011, 18:43

Being645 wrote:

This is the Oz one

lachert · 21 Mar 2011, 18:57

Being645 wrote:

nah, iirc this one above is made by some heartlander

Being645 · 21 Mar 2011, 19:12

Thank you very much, radiojamaica and lachert ...

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Do you know anything about the label, the date of release or other such stuff concerning these two CDs as well?

So the yellow one is just a homemade fake bootleg with a CDr but still from the same source (Strawberry Sessions 1984, etc.)?
Hhm, but I think I have seen it on Ebay ... could be an error though ... that cover is used more often than only for one bootleg ...

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17.auflage · 21 Mar 2011, 19:38

just a fast scan, if you need better pics, just give me a sign...

Back

Inlay 1 and 2

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Being645 · 21 Mar 2011, 20:03

Oh pretty ...

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I'm currently working on this page and all the other related to VOC. I've got a nice picture of the disc but none of the inlay ...

So that were nice ... doesn't have too be that large, though...

lachert · 21 Mar 2011, 20:13

Being645 wrote:Oh pretty ... ...

I'm currently working on this page and all the other related to VOC. I've got a nice picture of the disc but none of the inlay ...

So that were nice ... doesn't have too be that large, though...

nice job

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another bootleg CD with the same title but one more track at the end

didn't heard about that one but you can alsow mention "suns of mercy" cd bootleg from 91, which was very similar to "voc" with additional aftehours and jolene at the end, but omited serpent's kiss.

paint it black · 21 Mar 2011, 20:32

three Oz bootlegs all appeared around the same time. I did research it all at the time. As I recall the pressing plant specialised in bootlegs to order

Being645 · 21 Mar 2011, 20:44

lachert wrote:
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another bootleg CD with the same title but one more track at the end
didn't heard about that one but you can alsow mention "suns of mercy" cd bootleg from 91, which was very similar to "voc" with additional aftehours and jolene at the end, but omited serpent's kiss.

You'll see it later when I'm ready ... I will make a page for it ...

Suns Of Mercy? ... Thanks for the hint ... I can mention that somewhere on the page of the cassette ...

@ paint it black ... three? All of this one? ...

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... you got any pictures?

17.auflage · 21 Mar 2011, 21:06

OK, size does matter!!!!

Cover, inner side

Cover, fold out

Back, Inner side

Being645 · 21 Mar 2011, 21:35

... Good Heavens ...

... we will see what size they have as soon as I've slightly adjusted them ...

Thanks a lot, however ...

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ah btw, in case you should be the proud owner of some Victims Of Circumstance Palazzograssi 7" vinyl ...

I could make use of the picture of the back cover of that one as well ...

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17.auflage · 21 Mar 2011, 21:42

Being645 · 21 Mar 2011, 21:48

... wow , thanks ...

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now I have to put them into the right size ...

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* Done that and that and that and that ...

... so, Good Night for today ...

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paint it black · 22 Mar 2011, 14:46

Being645 wrote:... wow , thanks ... ...

now I have to put them into the right size ... ...

* Done that and that and that and that ... ... so, Good Night for today ... ...

good afternoon

a) Australien

b) there is no fade in knockin' which is why it must've been, ahem... 'touched by the hand of a bootlegger'

Being645 · 22 Mar 2011, 16:17

Thanks for your attention ...

... corrected that ...

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Being645 · 30 Mar 2011, 11:52

Some further questions, this time about the Victims Of Circumstance 7" Vinyl

Does anybody acutally own one of the hand-numbered first 1.000 copies? Or are these only a myth?

As for the repressed copies - were they all on white vinyl with unnumbered cover?
Or were black vinyls repressed as well (beyond the additional 500 up to 1500/1000)?

And how about those alleged 26 in gatefold sleeve ... do they really exist?

Any further information on these questions?

paint it black · 30 Mar 2011, 13:05

think you're all mixed up with last magician (or whatever it's called) that's the one which is g/f A-Z green, red, blue, grey, teal, orange proof

Being645 · 30 Mar 2011, 13:34

paint it black wrote:think you're all mixed up with last magician (or whatever it's called) that's the one which is g/f A-Z green, red, blue, grey, teal, orange proof

Most probably not, the Wiki clearly devides between the two ...
and I take it for granted that people would not have written
something there, without any existing knowledge or proof ...

http://sisterswiki.org/The_Last_Magicia ... al_Thought
http://sisterswiki.org/Victims_Of_Circumstance_7%22

taylor · 30 Mar 2011, 14:00

AS BELOW THEN THERE ARE THE SPECIAL NUMBERS IF INTEREST

VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCE 7 INCH PS ORIGINAL NUMBERED SLEEVE
VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCE 7 INCH PS ORIGINAL NUMBERED SLEEVE
WITH EXTRA PRINT INSIDE OF THE SLEEVE

VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCE 7 INCH PS ORIGINAL PROMO COPY OF THE ORIGINAL ISSUE NOT NUMBERED + EXTRA PRINT INSIDE THE SLEEVE
GREY FRONT SLEEVE INSTEAD OF BLACK

VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCE 7 INCH PS REISSUE WHITE VINYL NOT NUMBERED GLOSSY PS

VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCE 7 INCH PS REISSUE BLACK VINYL NOT NUMBERED GLOSSY PS

VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCE 7 INCH WHITE LABEL TEST PRESSING OF THE FIRST ISSUE
JUST 2 OF THESE WERE PRESSED AS TEST PRESSING FROM A PLANT
HOWEVER THEM WERE REALLY UNHAPPY WITH THE QUALITY OF THE
PRESSING THAT THE BOY WENT TO ANOTHER PLANT TO HAVE THE
PROPER PRESSING - THE RECORD HAS THE CATALOGUE NUMBER
PG-002 INSTEAD OF VOC-7 OF THE PROPER ISSUE - IT WAS HOUSED
IN A PROOF PRINTERS MATT DULL SLEEVE NOT LAMINATED & NOT NUMBERED

VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCE 7 INCH TEST-PROOF PROMO UNRELEASED YELLOW SLEEVE FOR THE
ORIGINAL NUMBERED ISSUE - THIS WASN'T NUMBERED AND WAS
MADE FOR CHECK THE QUALITY AND CHOOSE SLEEVE COLOURS

VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCE 7 AS ABOVE BUT UNIQUE LIGHT GREY/RED FINISHED SLEEVE +
EXTRA PRINT INSIDE THE SLEEVE NM

VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCE 7 INCH ORGINAL AS ABOVE BUT PURPLE COLOR TONE OF SLEEVE NM

BOYS DID A LOT OF DIFFERENT WEIRD AND WONDERFULL EXPERIMENT
WITH DIFFERENT COLOURS FOR THE ABOVES SLEEVES -

VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCE 7 UNRELEASED PROOF TEST GATEFOLD SLEEVE OF ORIGINAL ISSUE
IT'S IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE LAST MAGICIAN OF RATIONAL
THROUGH - IT WAS DONE FOR A LIMITED EDITION OF VICTIM'S
IN GATEFOLD SLEEVE BUT THEN REJECT - SILVER METALLIC ON
INNER * NOT NUMBERED SLEEVE

Being645 · 30 Mar 2011, 14:20

Millions of thanks, taylor ...

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Your infos are really useful ...

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I shall incorporate all of these properly in the Wiki.

Btw, do you have a picture of one of them numbered first releases - for the unbelieving among us ...

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Being645 · 31 Mar 2011, 21:40

Hell, done that now ... *sweat

Please check everybody whether it's ok, the way I did it ...

And anyway, a picture of any of the varities mentioned and/or of the original numbered issue were entirely welcome ...

Being645 · 05 Apr 2011, 15:09

... added a few pictures now (please scroll) ...

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mh · 05 Apr 2011, 17:31

Can anybody clarify the fade in KoHD by the way? To my ears anyway the Australian VoC version does not sound as though it was artifically boosted by a bootlegger, whereas the faded versions I've heard do sound as though the fade is artificial (and quite arbitrarily placed too).

Based on aural evidence alone I'm inclined to think that the fade/double-A-side malarkey is about as genuine as the ToL or "Kiss me Carpet" demos.

xfloorshowx · 05 Apr 2011, 18:22

Being645 wrote: ... added a few pictures now (please scroll) ... ...

very nice work you're doing

Being645 · 05 Apr 2011, 19:33

xfloorshowx wrote:
Being645 wrote: ... added a few pictures now (please scroll) ... ...
very nice work you're doing

Thanks ... seems some part of me takes pleasure in it ...

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anyway, it's all based on the wonderful work of others ...

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mh wrote: Can anybody clarify the fade in KoHD by the way? To my ears anyway the Australian VoC version does not sound as though it was artifically boosted by a bootlegger, whereas the faded versions I've heard do sound as though the fade is artificial (and quite arbitrarily placed too).

Based on aural evidence alone I'm inclined to think that the fade/double-A-side malarkey is about as genuine as the ToL or "Kiss me Carpet" demos.

Oh yes! Thanks! Seconded!
I couldn't find a fade within in the Australian version, either,
and also remember having heareda version somewhere with
that fade, but where

I shall check the Australian version again, and if again, I shouldn't find
that fade, I'll change that sentence in the Wiki ... trusting my ears for once ...

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