The Cure

radiojamaica · 10 Feb 2014, 18:04

I was talking with a friend about this and we both would love to see a version of the Boy I Never Knew popping up eventually. It was played in the 2008 tour and we both thought it was great. Never heard about it after that tour...
There was also talk at the time that the shadow album for 4/13 was a lot darker so I am looking forward to what is going to be released

Anybody know when those trilogy shows will be on? October/November seems doable for us

11 Feb 2014, 13:25

radiojamaica wrote:I was talking with a friend about this and we both would love to see a version of the Boy I Never Knew popping up eventually. It was played in the 2008 tour and we both thought it was great. Never heard about it after that tour...
There was also talk at the time that the shadow album for 4/13 was a lot darker so I am looking forward to what is going to be released

Anybody know when those trilogy shows will be on? October/November seems doable for us

No dates as of yet.
There were some leaked "demos" not too long back including A Boy I Never Knew.
4:13 Dream was supposed to be a double initially & RS ended up being pressed to put a handful of stuff from 4:14 Scream on it to release as a single album (terribly produced).
Hoping that he'll do a better job on the forthcoming release though.

psichonaut · 11 Feb 2014, 21:40

Bartek wrote:nonetheless it shows lack of new, fresh ideas for music. at least to me.
and as far as i'm for record something and fail, than do nothing, that movemnet it's strange. i mean, if they (he) got all freedom that they (he) want(s), then why they're (he's) not trying to do somethimg more, something that they couldn't do, not only bacause lable said/would say "no, it's not gonna sell", rather than "it's gonna be too expensive to release"? (yeah, i know where i'm writing that.)
I might be wrong, but Bob is prisoner of his own image, so i guess it's even harder for him to throw it away, push boundires and do something that his minions would not accept so easily.

l agree, lot of Times in the last 10 years i thought Bob was victim of the label and the contracts he signed, too many Times his songs sounded weak, repetitive and with a certain lack of inspiration.
Many Times the doubt of him victim of himself touched me

Silence is platinum · 12 Feb 2014, 18:00

What happens with the Cure is actually is the same as with Depeche Mode
both of them have made a sh*tload of money, both are very famous and both love to play in front of thousands of screaming fans.
Only thing is inspiration dosent show up that often now and both of these bands rely on their back catalogue during live gigs to keep the crowds happy.
For Depeche mode i couldn't care less, as i think they were never nowhere near as good and talented as the Cure.

I think after Wild mood Swings everythting went terribly wrong, bloodflowers is just unlistenable and the idea that it closes a so called trilogy is just absurd.
cure and 4 :13 are just boring with only a handful of songs to save the day.
But i do have faith in that old geezer, all he needs is a fresh start and not to worry so much about the bands image.
And ffs he definitely needs a haircut!

abridged · 12 Feb 2014, 18:11

Am not a fan particularly of the Cure or Depeche Mode but maybe a significant contributing fact is that quite a bit of their audience base is 20 years older and you don't listen to things in the same way after a few decades, particularly new stuff. Or maybe that's just me...

ruffers · 29 Mar 2014, 23:04

Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:
psichonaut wrote:
ruffers wrote:I'm going on the Friday.
they have stolen you the montly paycheck
...but TCT is a fantastic cause so well worth it

And to round this up I had a great time. On stage on 7.45 ish, off at around 11.20, 45 songs is quite a set.

Lots of fun had by all (apart from the couple next to me who clearly had had a massive row on the way)

psichonaut · 29 Mar 2014, 23:12

32/33 songs
It's a set but beeing a faking long set they didn't give me yhe same senetions i had at the Nephs

psichonaut · 29 Mar 2014, 23:12

32/33 songs
It's a set but beeing a faking long set they didn't give me yhe same senetions i had at the Nephs

ruffers · 29 Mar 2014, 23:47

45 - http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/03/t ... t-of-2014/

You raise an interesting point though - how long is too long? Not sure I'd listen to a playlist of Cure songs at home for that long..The guy at the Torygraph certainly found it heavy going, maybe shorter would be better..?

psichonaut · 30 Mar 2014, 09:40

ruffers wrote:45 - http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/03/t ... t-of-2014/

You raise an interesting point though - how long is too long? Not sure I'd listen to a playlist of Cure songs at home for that long..The guy at the Torygraph certainly found it heavy going, maybe shorter would be better..?

i counted the. Songs on TheCureCommunity where there was a live report, but i vould count them wrongly, i was a bit drunk.
However the usual setlist is around 35 songs.
Too long? Maybe
My point is, aside a fanatic who certainly goes mad for every song, a normal fan like me bored( i wasn't in good company so i had fun the same) for half songs
Another point is the price,
Surely a similar setlist pays back the ticket, other band raise their tickets for 1 hour and half show

psichonaut · 30 Mar 2014, 09:50

Fpund why i counted wrongly
The gig wasn't over already, when i counted the songs

czuczu · 30 Mar 2014, 09:53

It was definitely 45, they overran the curfew both nights. I don't mind the ticket price if its a charity gig - especially for TCT. If you see what Roger Daltrey has actually done with this charity then you have to be impressed.

Having said that, the Reflections show were almost 3 hours but there was a break after every album so the length wasn't so punishing.

30 Mar 2014, 13:04

Only 45 songs??

Not quite as epic as the Mexico show last April.

I think that they have now become renowned for these mammoth shows & people expect a 3 hour + concert every time.
They have the repertoire to do that easily & there is always huge debate about set lists & whether they'll toss a rarity in.
Yes, you'll get your FIIL & JLH & the other well known stuff, but you just know a curve ball will happen.
But it's not all quantity. When they play they are bursting with quality too.
I don't really recall a duff show since 1998 when Bob was continually shedded.
So even if the ticket prices are high, you simply know that you're getting your money's worth.
& if you can't hold your bladder for that long, you can always head off to the bogs when they start playing Mint Car

James Blast · 30 Mar 2014, 14:24

3hrs of anyone is 2hrs too much for me.

czuczu · 30 Mar 2014, 14:38

Pista wrote: But it's not all quantity. When they play they are bursting with quality too.
I don't really recall a duff show since 1998 when Bob was continually shedded.

^ This, definitely.
I bailed on the Cure for well over ten years after their Glastonbury '95 show (when I fell asleep) and the next 3 albums. It was only 2008 when I tried them again and since then they've been top notch every time.
And adding Reeves Gabrels to the line-up was an inspired choice.

30 Mar 2014, 14:53

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Being645 · 30 Mar 2014, 15:05

Thanks, I think this a good moment to give them another try ...

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hellboy69 · 31 Mar 2014, 09:27

Saturday was immense, great to hear "2Late" at last & we had a lovely view from the Gallery

eastmidswhizzkid · 02 Apr 2014, 01:06

i'm a big fan of the earlier, "goth-fathers" era cure (1st 4 albums) and found the "the walk"-era transition refreshingly quirky and, well, cheerful. so up to and including the concert album all's good...but even the insanely catchy in between days couldn't save them from what was -in my opinion- a vast case of over-poppiness. unfortunately that decline has never been reversed, which is a shame. i'd still love to see them play live but A) couldn't afford it in a thousand incarnations and B) wouldn't settle for less than "seventeen seconds" and "pornography" in their entirety....which i believe is something i have already missed..

radiojamaica · 02 Apr 2014, 17:57

czuczu wrote:
Pista wrote: But it's not all quantity. When they play they are bursting with quality too.
I don't really recall a duff show since 1998 when Bob was continually shedded.
^ This, definitely.
I bailed on the Cure for well over ten years after their Glastonbury '95 show (when I fell asleep) and the next 3 albums. It was only 2008 when I tried them again and since then they've been top notch every time.
And adding Reeves Gabrels to the line-up was an inspired choice.

I walked back in in 2005 and since then the shows were always very, very good indeed.

I'm kinda anxious to know when & where the trilogy shows will be...

James Blast · 02 Apr 2014, 18:05

I have Trilogy on DVD and barring the dismal Bloodflowers, it's all I need. Oh, BTW Stevebaby, did I tell you I saw them on the Carnage Visors tour.

radiojamaica · 02 Apr 2014, 18:06

And you found that a bit dull I'm sure, especially the intro fillum

James Blast · 02 Apr 2014, 18:12

hellboy69 · 03 Apr 2014, 09:59

James Blast wrote:yes

03 Apr 2014, 10:56

James Blast wrote:I have Trilogy on DVD and barring the dismal Bloodflowers, it's all I need. Oh, BTW Stevebaby, did I tell you I saw them on the Carnage Visors tour.

Indeed you did you jammy wotsit

14.05.1981 Glasgow - Tiffany's right?

Did I send you a copy of that show? It's missing The Holy Hour, but otherwise it's a pretty good recording.

Bloodflowers is a bit "The Cure by numbers" but some of the keyboard work is truly awesome