Intriguing.
Six Ways to Sunday could definitely be about domestic violence. But it could also be about police brutality / the sharp end of the state.
I think my hunch that Caligula's Eyes is about Thatcher is confirmed. 'There is no us' probably reflects her famous 'there's no such thing as society.' A hymn to a North sold out by Thatcher, with her American pals (I take it that any reference to chrome in AE's lyrics means America). There's something in there that reminds me of Theresa May too, though, though I can't quite put my finger on it.
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True could be that too. I'm assuming each line,six, is a day. Starts Monday, ends Saturday and into Sunday.
The other one feels old to me. Reworked maybe, but I don't see modern politics beyond Liverpool plan to be a breakaway state
The other one feels old to me. Reworked maybe, but I don't see modern politics beyond Liverpool plan to be a breakaway state
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I don't think there was a serious aspiration for Liverpool or even the region to break away but certainly a significant number of the people there do view themselves as a group distinct from the mainstream English majority, if such a thing actually exists. Whether it is politically driven, the area being historically small 'l' liberal left-wing verging on republican in sentiment, or whether it comes from the area's population being quite a mongrel mix of English, Welsh, Irish and Scots ethnicities or does it come from the city being probably the most catholic city in England too. Personally I feel the maritime tradition of the area probably leaves a more outward looking mentality which is a bit at odds in these Brexit days.
A suggestion of warmth from Von does make a change from his old 'criminal city' references though.
A suggestion of warmth from Von does make a change from his old 'criminal city' references though.
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Eyes of Caligula certainly looks more immediately worthy of dissection than many of Von's more recent lyrics.
He starts with the reference to the new Jerusalem, presumably a reference to the sentiments of Blake's poem which he went misty-eyed about on that Belgian radio show in 1984.
"There is no us" does seem to be a direct reference to Thatcher's famous quote on society, rather than us being US as in United States, but the rest of the oening stanza could also be seen as a reference to recent election results. Either Von is talking about a map of Europe after the Brexit result, with the UK no longer being a part of Europe, or possibly the Toryification of many of the traditional Labour heartlands in the North, if the song has a narrower theme.
Not sure about the second stanza - "Wrapped in sugar for her pains" - is this a reference to Thatcher's pre-politics job as a food chemist and being part of the team which invented Mr Whippy ice cream?
Third stanza - rain is a very familiar metaphor for seasoned Sisters watchers (from the top of my head Lights/Black Planet/Rain From Heaven/Mother Russia). Are these running dogs actual canines, i.e. greyhounds? Leeds had a dog-track on Elland Road near the football ground in Eldritch's day in the early 80s. Hopefully "dogs" is not used as a derogatory term for female humans.
The miners "in the dark" is presumably a pun, referencing their working environment and their lack of awareness of Thatcher's plans for their industry, and "needles in the park" an obvious reference to the high rates of heroin addiction in Thatcher's Britain in the early 80's.
"We had wool and we had steel" is typical Eldritch repetition ("We had the power, We had the space","We have fear and we have fuel" etc) and for non-UK dwellers refers to the traditional industries of the north of the UK, wool being produced in Bradford, Halifax etc in what is now West Yorkshire and steel at Sheffield in South Yorkshire. Both industries were also run down under Thatcher's rule. Liverpool could be a football reference (they were of course the dominant team in English and European football at the time) but also the home of Militant Tendency, the only part of the political Left able to mount a genuine challenge to Thatcher, after the Toxteth riots of 1981, an event that caused some panic in Downing Street, with Michael Heseltine appointed Minister for Merseyside as a result. At the end I am assuming that Thatcher is looking down (or up?) at the current situation and thinking that her job has now been completed. A destroyed North voting Tory and leaving the financial and moral support of the EU and relying on a UK in the thrall of a US President far worse even than the one that she herself was forced to cosy up to in the 80's.
He starts with the reference to the new Jerusalem, presumably a reference to the sentiments of Blake's poem which he went misty-eyed about on that Belgian radio show in 1984.
"There is no us" does seem to be a direct reference to Thatcher's famous quote on society, rather than us being US as in United States, but the rest of the oening stanza could also be seen as a reference to recent election results. Either Von is talking about a map of Europe after the Brexit result, with the UK no longer being a part of Europe, or possibly the Toryification of many of the traditional Labour heartlands in the North, if the song has a narrower theme.
Not sure about the second stanza - "Wrapped in sugar for her pains" - is this a reference to Thatcher's pre-politics job as a food chemist and being part of the team which invented Mr Whippy ice cream?
Third stanza - rain is a very familiar metaphor for seasoned Sisters watchers (from the top of my head Lights/Black Planet/Rain From Heaven/Mother Russia). Are these running dogs actual canines, i.e. greyhounds? Leeds had a dog-track on Elland Road near the football ground in Eldritch's day in the early 80s. Hopefully "dogs" is not used as a derogatory term for female humans.
The miners "in the dark" is presumably a pun, referencing their working environment and their lack of awareness of Thatcher's plans for their industry, and "needles in the park" an obvious reference to the high rates of heroin addiction in Thatcher's Britain in the early 80's.
"We had wool and we had steel" is typical Eldritch repetition ("We had the power, We had the space","We have fear and we have fuel" etc) and for non-UK dwellers refers to the traditional industries of the north of the UK, wool being produced in Bradford, Halifax etc in what is now West Yorkshire and steel at Sheffield in South Yorkshire. Both industries were also run down under Thatcher's rule. Liverpool could be a football reference (they were of course the dominant team in English and European football at the time) but also the home of Militant Tendency, the only part of the political Left able to mount a genuine challenge to Thatcher, after the Toxteth riots of 1981, an event that caused some panic in Downing Street, with Michael Heseltine appointed Minister for Merseyside as a result. At the end I am assuming that Thatcher is looking down (or up?) at the current situation and thinking that her job has now been completed. A destroyed North voting Tory and leaving the financial and moral support of the EU and relying on a UK in the thrall of a US President far worse even than the one that she herself was forced to cosy up to in the 80's.
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Alan? At a time of extreme rheumatism?
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This was the supposed outline for Von's second album, how much was dream and how much reality I guess only he knew and I further suppose only at the time of writing.abridged wrote:Am I imagining it but was the Eyes of Caligula one of the titles from the proposed tracks back in the day? Maybe from Left on m*****n?
....if I have to explain, then you'll never understand....
Eyes of Caligula was one of the first bunch from the start of this year:
Depprocksfarfar wrote:Another bunch of new songs!
"BUT GENEVIEVE (Christo/Eldritch/Smith)
EYES OF CALIGULA (Christo/Eldritch/Smith)
WE ARE ON THIS PLANE (Christo/Eldritch/Smith)
BLACK SAIL (Christo/Eldritch/Smith)"
http://www.the-sisters-of-mercy.com/news/livenews.html
If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put 'Spinal Tap' first and 'Puppet Show' last.
I wonder what happened to Pillowtalk etc.Swinnow wrote:This was the supposed outline for Von's second album, how much was dream and how much reality I guess only he knew and I further suppose only at the time of writing.abridged wrote:Am I imagining it but was the Eyes of Caligula one of the titles from the proposed tracks back in the day? Maybe from Left on m*****n?
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Oh yes, true! How could I forget that... Thank you for the hint...mh wrote:Eyes of Caligula was one of the first bunch from the start of this year:
Depprocksfarfar wrote:Another bunch of new songs!
"BUT GENEVIEVE (Christo/Eldritch/Smith)
EYES OF CALIGULA (Christo/Eldritch/Smith)
WE ARE ON THIS PLANE (Christo/Eldritch/Smith)
BLACK SAIL (Christo/Eldritch/Smith)"
http://www.the-sisters-of-mercy.com/news/livenews.html
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... or the other never heard of songs. What is most remarkable, IMO, is that Bury Me Deep was long released by the time of that draft ...ruffers wrote:I wonder what happened to Pillowtalk etc.Swinnow wrote:This was the supposed outline for Von's second album, how much was dream and how much reality I guess only he knew and I further suppose only at the time of writing.abridged wrote:Am I imagining it but was the Eyes of Caligula one of the titles from the proposed tracks back in the day? Maybe from Left on m*****n?
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Was ' Bury Me Deep' one of those tracks who's credits were'traded' between Hussey and Eldritch for political reasons in the recordings after the main FALAA sessions? Without opening my vault of ancient scrolls I can't really recall. Old age eh? 
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The song in question was Blood Money. Wayne co-wrote Body and Soul but wasn't able to claim credit, so they came to an arrangement where he would get credit in lieu with a different song. A raw deal for sure! B&S was on A Slight Case Of Overbombing which sold pretty well.Swinnow wrote:Was ' Bury Me Deep' one of those tracks who's credits were'traded' between Hussey and Eldritch for political reasons in the recordings after the main FALAA sessions? Without opening my vault of ancient scrolls I can't really recall. Old age eh?
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OK, thank you for the hint! ...Waclimino wrote:This Wiki page, I think, requires an update.
https://sisterswiki.org/Unreleased_Songs
... Nobody is kept from doing it, but it's updated now.
The So far Unamed Instrumental that premiered in Thessaloniki is missingBeing645 wrote:OK, thank you for the hint! ...Waclimino wrote:This Wiki page, I think, requires an update.
https://sisterswiki.org/Unreleased_Songs
Nobody is kept from doing it, but it's updated now.
Thank you
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
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Yes, but I don't want to call it "So Far Unnamed Instrumental". How about Instrumental (untitled) ?...iesus wrote:The So far Unamed Instrumental that premiered in Thessaloniki is missingBeing645 wrote:OK, thank you for the hint! ...Waclimino wrote:This Wiki page, I think, requires an update.
https://sisterswiki.org/Unreleased_Songs
Nobody is kept from doing it, but it's updated now.
Thank you
...Or we do a poll with suggestions for a good title ...
...Such a good idea!Being645 wrote: Yes, but I don't want to call it "So Far Unnamed Instrumental". How about Instrumental (untitled) ?...
Or we do a poll with suggestions for a good title ...
We have some time from last poll
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
My pleasure. Ain't it a beauty to look at now.Being645 wrote:OK, thank you for the hint! ...Waclimino wrote:This Wiki page, I think, requires an update.
https://sisterswiki.org/Unreleased_Songs
Nobody is kept from doing it, but it's updated now.
Yeah, I was also going to mention the Instrumental. I think this title, with a capital letter, should also be included into the poll, if there is one.
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I've never even noticed the Unreleased Songs part of the wiki and also at the description for I Will Call You
and also at the description for I Will Call You