Paint My Name In Black and Gold: The Next Phase

THE place for your Sisters-related comments, questions and snippets of Sisters information. For those who do not know, The Sisters of Mercy are a rock'n'roll band. And a pop band. And an industrial groove machine. Or so they say. They make records. Lots of records, apparently. But not in your galaxy. They play concerts. Lots of concerts, actually. But you still cannot see them. So what's it all about, Alfie? This is one of the few tightly-moderated forums on Heartland, so please keep on-topic. All off-topic posts will either be moved or deleted. Chairman Bux is the editor and the editor's decision is final. Danke.
Post Reply
User avatar
OLDFART
Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 709
Joined: 10 Aug 2020, 21:55
Location: The Cursed Earth

Icon wrote: 11 May 2021, 18:46 There is progress :D !
Today I received an e-mail from unbound asking if I wanted the name of the supporter printed in the book changed.
They said that after May 27th any changes might not make it into the book. Seems to me that it‘s going to be printed pretty soon. :D :D :D
Not much longer to wait fortunately ;D
Had that e-mail as well , hopefully be getting it before summer's done :D
User avatar
sultan2075
Overbomber
Posts: 2379
Joined: 04 Mar 2005, 19:17
Location: Washington, D. C.
Contact:

Glad to hear it’s progressing. Despite pledging, I’ve not heard from them in over a year.
--
The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
User avatar
Electrochrome
Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 471
Joined: 12 Sep 2002, 01:00
Location: FL

OLDFART wrote: 11 May 2021, 20:42
Icon wrote: 11 May 2021, 18:46 There is progress :D !
Today I received an e-mail from unbound asking if I wanted the name of the supporter printed in the book changed.
They said that after May 27th any changes might not make it into the book. Seems to me that it‘s going to be printed pretty soon. :D :D :D
Not much longer to wait fortunately ;D
Had that e-mail as well , hopefully be getting it before summer's done :D
I tried logging in...forgot my password and asked for a reset link twice now. Nothing, no reply and there's no help contact info.
"Consistency is the sign of a decaying brain"
User avatar
Swinnow
Overbomber
Posts: 3551
Joined: 15 Mar 2005, 08:51
Location: In the Gazebo Of Badness, just outside BD3

Electrochrome wrote: 13 May 2021, 12:29 I tried logging in...forgot my password and asked for a reset link twice now. Nothing, no reply and there's no help contact info.
I'd suggest sending MAndrews a PM on here and chase Unbound up via the author.
....if I have to explain, then you'll never understand....
User avatar
Electrochrome
Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 471
Joined: 12 Sep 2002, 01:00
Location: FL

Swinnow wrote: 13 May 2021, 12:37
Electrochrome wrote: 13 May 2021, 12:29 I tried logging in...forgot my password and asked for a reset link twice now. Nothing, no reply and there's no help contact info.
I'd suggest sending MAndrews a PM on here and chase Unbound up via the author.
Great idea. But I'm also a dummy and the reset mail actually went to a different folder in gmail. All is good now...forgot I'd given my work address for shipping (this is over two years ago). If it's any time soon, I probably still won't be in the office...
"Consistency is the sign of a decaying brain"
MAndrews
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 170
Joined: 06 Oct 2015, 20:15
Location: Belgium

Just noticed this on the Unbound website: "It’s getting close. Pre-order a reward now – the supporter list is closing at 11pm (BST) on Sunday 23 May 2021". Therefore it seems there are only a few days left to pledge and get your or someone else's name in the book. Seems logical since it's off to the typesetters ...
https://unbound.com/books/sistersofmercy/
User avatar
eastmidswhizzkid
Faster Than The Light Of Speed
Posts: 9876
Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 00:01
Location: WhizzWorld
Contact:

i heard/read (must have been in the 1980-85 FB group) that we were looking at a September publication....good timing with it being the Roundhouse & my birthday (which its never too early to advertise). :von:
:bat:
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"

:bat:
User avatar
halfjobbob
Road Kill
Posts: 54
Joined: 17 Nov 2003, 21:17
Location: UK

I love the way he is paying homage to the Sisters tried and tested method of taking aaaaggggggeeeeessssss to release it..... :-)
User avatar
Big Si
School Bully
Posts: 6747
Joined: 19 Nov 2002, 00:00
Location: Glesga Central

halfjobbob wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 17:17 I love the way he is paying homage to the Sisters tried and tested method of taking aaaaggggggeeeeessssss to release it..... :-)
It's the Publisher Unbound that set the Process and the Length of time to get it from Rough Manuscript to Printed Book :wink:
Wyrd bið ful aræd...

mybelgiannemesis
User avatar
mh
Above the Chemist
Posts: 8123
Joined: 23 Jun 2003, 14:41
Location: A city built on rock 'n' roll

I see Amazon have this on pre-order now, release date 28th October this year. :von: :von: :von:
If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put 'Spinal Tap' first and 'Puppet Show' last.
User avatar
Icon
Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 280
Joined: 20 Mar 2019, 14:10
Location: Germany

mh wrote: 15 Jul 2021, 21:56 I see Amazon have this on pre-order now, release date 28th October this year. :von: :von: :von:
I was hoping for August. That would have been 6 months from the finished manuscript being handed over. Well, the winter is long. Enough time to read it approximately 16 times. :lol: :lol: :lol: :von:
User avatar
mh
Above the Chemist
Posts: 8123
Joined: 23 Jun 2003, 14:41
Location: A city built on rock 'n' roll

Icon wrote: 16 Jul 2021, 10:25
mh wrote: 15 Jul 2021, 21:56 I see Amazon have this on pre-order now, release date 28th October this year. :von: :von: :von:
I was hoping for August. That would have been 6 months from the finished manuscript being handed over. Well, the winter is long. Enough time to read it approximately 16 times. :lol: :lol: :lol: :von:
Only 16? Lightweight.
If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put 'Spinal Tap' first and 'Puppet Show' last.
User avatar
Icon
Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 280
Joined: 20 Mar 2019, 14:10
Location: Germany

mh wrote: 16 Jul 2021, 19:44
Icon wrote: 16 Jul 2021, 10:25
mh wrote: 15 Jul 2021, 21:56 I see Amazon have this on pre-order now, release date 28th October this year. :von: :von: :von:
I was hoping for August. That would have been 6 months from the finished manuscript being handed over. Well, the winter is long. Enough time to read it approximately 16 times. :lol: :lol: :lol: :von:
Only 16? Lightweight.

I spend the rest of the time reading Waiting For Another War again. :lol:
User avatar
eastmidswhizzkid
Faster Than The Light Of Speed
Posts: 9876
Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 00:01
Location: WhizzWorld
Contact:

Icon wrote: 16 Jul 2021, 20:46
mh wrote: 16 Jul 2021, 19:44
Icon wrote: 16 Jul 2021, 10:25

I was hoping for August. That would have been 6 months from the finished manuscript being handed over. Well, the winter is long. Enough time to read it approximately 16 times. :lol: :lol: :lol: :von:
Only 16? Lightweight.

I spend the rest of the time reading Waiting For Another War again. :lol:
only fair to recommend Wayne's Salad Days if you havent already read it. i only bothered reading it al the way through once, but ive reread the Sisters bit countless times.
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"

:bat:
User avatar
Icon
Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 280
Joined: 20 Mar 2019, 14:10
Location: Germany

:lol:
eastmidswhizzkid wrote: 16 Jul 2021, 21:12
Icon wrote: 16 Jul 2021, 20:46
mh wrote: 16 Jul 2021, 19:44

Only 16? Lightweight.

I spend the rest of the time reading Waiting For Another War again. :lol:
only fair to recommend Wayne's Salad Days if you havent already read it. i only bothered reading it al the way through once, but ive reread the Sisters bit countless times.
I did buy Wayne‘s book when it came out and read it once.
How can I put this…
At the time of the break-up I took Von‘s side and I could never relate to the m*****n. I think I still have the first two 12“ singles but never really liked them.
Although I do acknowledge that Wayne is probably a nice chap, I only bought the book for the part about the Sisters. And I think Wayne has a way of shooting little arrows at Andrew even now.
So as much as I found much of the firsthand information very interesting, I have not reread it yet.

Maybe someone up there in Leeds can persuade Mark/Gary to write a book?! I think that would be a constant on my bedside table. :lol: 8)
User avatar
Being645
Wiki Wizard
Posts: 15271
Joined: 09 Apr 2009, 12:54
Location: reconstruction status: whatever the f**k

Icon wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 12:41 Maybe someone up there in Leeds can persuade Mark/Gary to write a book?! I think that would be a constant on my bedside table. :lol: 8)
Yeah, that would be nice and I'd love to read it, too... :) ...
User avatar
eastmidswhizzkid
Faster Than The Light Of Speed
Posts: 9876
Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 00:01
Location: WhizzWorld
Contact:

Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"

:bat:
User avatar
Icon
Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 280
Joined: 20 Mar 2019, 14:10
Location: Germany

eastmidswhizzkid wrote: 02 Aug 2021, 15:54 review./ad from Roygh Trade

https://www.roughtrade.com/gb/mark-andr ... iK_EZ9V-ws
The preview sounds so exciting I really can‘t wait till October! :wink: :wake: :bat:
User avatar
eastmidswhizzkid
Faster Than The Light Of Speed
Posts: 9876
Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 00:01
Location: WhizzWorld
Contact:

it made me laugh my head off; from the very first sentence the book is clearly not being paid for by Eldritch in any way:

"...the cult band who invented Gothic Rock." :lol:
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"

:bat:
MAndrews
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 170
Joined: 06 Oct 2015, 20:15
Location: Belgium

Full disclosure ... very, very little Goth content in the book. But anyone selling books for their living would be missing a trick not to drop the G-bomb.
User avatar
eastmidswhizzkid
Faster Than The Light Of Speed
Posts: 9876
Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 00:01
Location: WhizzWorld
Contact:

MAndrews wrote: 09 Aug 2021, 15:53 Full disclosure ... very, very little Goth content in the book. But anyone selling books for their living would be missing a trick not to drop the G-bomb.
i am proud to be called a Goth. i am proud to be the Sisters biggest fan -others may love them as much as I but no-one could love them more- and if Andrew doesnt like it then thats the way it is.

Image
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"

:bat:
User avatar
Mothra
Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 566
Joined: 16 May 2006, 14:03
Location: looking for the can in the candy store

mh wrote: 15 Jul 2021, 21:56 I see Amazon have this on pre-order now, release date 28th October this year. :von: :von: :von:
On Amazon for only £16. :evil:

Must admit to finding that a little galling, as someone who pledged whenever it was (best part of two years ago). I just want to read the actual book - I don't need my name in the thank you list, and/or an e-book.
I'm pleased that by pledging I helped make it happen, but seems a bit back to front that all this time on, non-pledgers get to pick it up at a much lower price.

I remember getting access to a snippet or two, but they seem to have dried up too.
I guess I hadn't realised that the wait would be this long, and that in the meantime we'd get Trevor's amazing book.
I stand by my post that the articles Mark did for The Quietus were two of the best, if not The Best pieces of music writing I've ever read, but starting to think that I over-expected on this one.
Andrew, Dylan and Ben have managed to write half a new album in the time that it's taken this manuscript to become a reality.
GC
Slight Overbomber
Posts: 1265
Joined: 27 Dec 2005, 22:05

In NL its available on Bol.com for €22.
User avatar
eastmidswhizzkid
Faster Than The Light Of Speed
Posts: 9876
Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 00:01
Location: WhizzWorld
Contact:

it is f**king galling that amazon are selling it that cheap but thats the fuckkers at amazon -its no M.Andrew or his publishers fault. my sister just bought me the Dio biography for my bday for £20 from waterstones online - 5 quid dearer than at amazon.
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"

:bat:
MAndrews
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 170
Joined: 06 Oct 2015, 20:15
Location: Belgium

To anyone who pledged: without you there would be nothing. I would just note this: if the 'basic' print book pledge level had been set at Amazon/Bol/Rough Trade levels, it would have taken much, much longer to reach 100% - months and months more. For a long period of time, it seemed the book would not fund and there would be sweet FA for anyone to read. That uncertainty would have been extended by some considerable time. Those who pledged, at whatever level, anyone who has a copy of the book after 28 October - from whichever supplier - owes you a huge debt. And so do I. I've tried to write a book that's significantly better than the Quietus articles in order to repay that debt. From a practical publishing point of view: first manuscript was submitted August 2020. Then there was a structural edit and rewrites. Then, a detailed legal read and re-write. And then another legal read. Then a copy edit and rewrites. Then first proof, second and then third. The book got better each time. The slow bit was the legal reads - guess why? The end result is 440+ pages/90,000+ words and another 60,000 in the PDF extra. Has it been worth it? It has for me. Pledgers will make up their own minds, since t's their book too.
Post Reply