From what I've read, it's not that the omicron variant actually mutated in SA, it's that South Africa has got a really effective detection system and well-funded epidemiologists and virologists so they're really good at finding new variants really quickly.MadameButterfly wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 21:36 My heart goes out to Africa and South Africa as now another mutation has evolved as is the concern for my mom and aunt that are in the danger zone just because of age and smoking of course but that they have known their whole lives. It is in Belgium and most certainly the Netherlands as people have travelled.
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That's right. In fact the SA authorities got a bit narked at the press calling it the South African variantmarkfiend wrote: ↑02 Dec 2021, 12:39From what I've read, it's not that the omicron variant actually mutated in SA, it's that South Africa has got a really effective detection system and well-funded epidemiologists and virologists so they're really good at finding new variants really quickly.MadameButterfly wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 21:36 My heart goes out to Africa and South Africa as now another mutation has evolved as is the concern for my mom and aunt that are in the danger zone just because of age and smoking of course but that they have known their whole lives. It is in Belgium and most certainly the Netherlands as people have travelled.
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I've got my booster tomorrow. Fingers crossed all will be well
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my booster is booked for Thursday. i wasnt convinced with regard to having a different vaccine from my first 2 shots until i read a lot of data which seems fairly conclusive.
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Boostered last Wednesday (Moderna booster, J&J original). Felt fine Thursday & Friday. Rough Saturday, really seriously awful Sunday, first half of Monday still feeling it - just about done now but man that was a rough ride. Even went to the urgent care place on Sunday to see if I'd contracted the lurgy. Apparently a 48-hour delay in response isn't common, but not unusual.
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CPOB the fact that I am supposed to be off on my holidays tomorrow - 2 weeks in sunny Guatemala eating roast quetzals and drinking rum up the side of a volcano before sacrificing small children to Mayan gods. Everything planned and paid for.
And then last night I went for a pre-trip PCR test. I am the most careful motherf**ker on the planet - I wear a mask everywhere, socially-distance, eschew crowds - and yet somehow I've tested positive.
No holidays for me. Grrrr.
And then last night I went for a pre-trip PCR test. I am the most careful motherf**ker on the planet - I wear a mask everywhere, socially-distance, eschew crowds - and yet somehow I've tested positive.
No holidays for me. Grrrr.
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I'm sorry to hear that, EB. I read earlier today that around 40% of Omicron infections are completely asymptomatic.
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double post, sorry.
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triple post - sorry, been staring at term papers all day. clearly my mind has broken.
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That sucks EB.
Except for the youngsters earmarked for sacrifice of course.
Hope it buggers off sharpish
Except for the youngsters earmarked for sacrifice of course.
Hope it buggers off sharpish
Boosted as of yesterday, my first 2 were Pfizer but this time I got Moderna. Apparently our lot have an oversupply that they need to clear before it expires, so most are getting Moderna. I do remember some talk about mixing vaccines being better, so I don't mind.
I went to a walk-in center, queued for an hour 45 because our booster program is a shambles, and was in and out in 25 minutes from there.
So far only a sore arm. I'm one of those who's never taken a reaction to a vaccine though, so that was expected.
At this stage I'm 95% convinced that I've been at least exposed to it, if not already had it asymptomatically. I don't see how I couldn't have, given some of the things I've been doing over the past 2 years. On the other hand I have been taking reasonably sensible precautions most of the time, without going all the way to living like a hermit.
I went to a walk-in center, queued for an hour 45 because our booster program is a shambles, and was in and out in 25 minutes from there.
So far only a sore arm. I'm one of those who's never taken a reaction to a vaccine though, so that was expected.
At this stage I'm 95% convinced that I've been at least exposed to it, if not already had it asymptomatically. I don't see how I couldn't have, given some of the things I've been doing over the past 2 years. On the other hand I have been taking reasonably sensible precautions most of the time, without going all the way to living like a hermit.
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Off for my booster. hope it's as side-effect free as my first two, as its a different type.
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maybe it was not the booster side effect after all. pity about the holiday.EvilBastard wrote: ↑20 Dec 2021, 20:26 CPOB the fact that I am supposed to be off on my holidays tomorrow - 2 weeks in sunny Guatemala eating roast quetzals and drinking rum up the side of a volcano before sacrificing small children to Mayan gods. Everything planned and paid for.
And then last night I went for a pre-trip PCR test. I am the most careful motherf**ker on the planet - I wear a mask everywhere, socially-distance, eschew crowds - and yet somehow I've tested positive.
No holidays for me. Grrrr.
I've got mine in Hungary december 1st as here in NL are so slow. wasnt as bad as the side effects after the second. bit of fever and felt like eveyrthing hurt but only for a day or so. got my fly shot here in NL a week ago.
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Hope you feel better soon EB
My daughters have both tested positive and my youngest, Cleopatra isn't very well at all. Both are double jabbed.
At least they're home from University and I can care for them here but it's horrible seeing them so poorly - so much for it being mild
Hope you and your families stay safe and well xx
My daughters have both tested positive and my youngest, Cleopatra isn't very well at all. Both are double jabbed.
At least they're home from University and I can care for them here but it's horrible seeing them so poorly - so much for it being mild
Hope you and your families stay safe and well xx
Oh cr@p.
Hope the little ones get over it as quickly as possible
Hope the little ones get over it as quickly as possible
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That's rough, Smiley - as you say, at least they're at home and you can look after them, so there's a silver lining. Hope they recover quickly.
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sorry to hear that Laura. hope they both get well soon and that you dont get it. love and hugs from here.SmileySister wrote: ↑23 Dec 2021, 01:01 Hope you feel better soon EB
My daughters have both tested positive and my youngest, Cleopatra isn't very well at all. Both are double jabbed.
At least they're home from University and I can care for them here but it's horrible seeing them so poorly - so much for it being mild
Hope you and your families stay safe and well xx
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you are both correct and i see i didn't word that very well now did i? well here in dutchland we are still in lock down and slowly but surely the booster shots are being given. thursday evening have my appointment.Pista wrote: ↑02 Dec 2021, 14:38That's right. In fact the SA authorities got a bit narked at the press calling it the South African variantmarkfiend wrote: ↑02 Dec 2021, 12:39From what I've read, it's not that the omicron variant actually mutated in SA, it's that South Africa has got a really effective detection system and well-funded epidemiologists and virologists so they're really good at finding new variants really quickly.MadameButterfly wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 21:36 My heart goes out to Africa and South Africa as now another mutation has evolved as is the concern for my mom and aunt that are in the danger zone just because of age and smoking of course but that they have known their whole lives. It is in Belgium and most certainly the Netherlands as people have travelled.
Keep as safe as you can this is not nearly at the end...
hopefully everyone is feeling better now after having it and the kids are on the mend.
stay safe people and look after yourselves xxx
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My mum caught Covid a few weeks ago despite being triple-jabbed (she thinks she caught it on a coach-trip although what possessed her to go on a coach-trip in the middle of a fcuking pandemic is completely beyond me) and now seems to have post-Covid "brain-fog". She is recovering, but slowly, and she is still really not herself. She's always been fiercely independent and is savagely resisting leaving her own place for a home, but my brother and I think it might be inevitable to move her into 24-hour care.
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