Magnificent, cheers for those links FMAMMY, Eyes Of Caligula gets better every listen digging the Crystal Palace 93 'zoomed-in and shaky' vibes of those vids
'What a heavy load Einstein must have had. Morons everywhere.'
The show was good, the shameful behaviour yesterday of Andrew Eldritch on the plane back to London was not. I was excited to see him got on the same flight as me but not for long. He was removed from the plane on landing, partly for causing trouble, and partly I guess for his own safety, after he drunkenly abused and threatened a female passenger and insulted a group of men much bigger than him. Embarrassing and I wont see them anymore
sisterspinster wrote: ↑04 Jul 2022, 11:48
The show was good, the shameful behaviour yesterday of Andrew Eldritch on the plane back to London was not. I was excited to see him got on the same flight as me but not for long. He was removed from the plane on landing, partly for causing trouble, and partly I guess for his own safety, after he drunkenly abused and threatened a female passenger and insulted a group of men much bigger than him. Embarrassing and I wont see them anymore
Really?? Oh f**king hell Andrew. That really is shameful.
we will steal what we cannot buy when all is stole from us
Eh, if that's true, it's pretty sad. He's a bit long in the tooth to be getting met by police off a short flight from Europe.
But does Andrew live in the UK anymore? Why would he be flying to London? One random poster on the internet does not necessarily mean it's true. No offence Sisterspinster, but are you sure it was him?
Todashi wrote: ↑04 Jul 2022, 12:39
Eh, if that's true, it's pretty sad. He's a bit long in the tooth to be getting met by police off a short flight from Europe.
But does Andrew live in the UK anymore? Why would he be flying to London? One random poster on the internet does not necessarily mean it's true. No offence Sisterspinster, but are you sure it was him?
Yes. It was him. And Ben Christo and Ravey Davey were on the same flight
and because of that you won't see them anymore? if it happened, obviously not nice but who are we to judge? based on this I should just forget about all my favorite bands...like literally every single one of them.
Todashi wrote: ↑04 Jul 2022, 12:39
Eh, if that's true, it's pretty sad. He's a bit long in the tooth to be getting met by police off a short flight from Europe.
But does Andrew live in the UK anymore? Why would he be flying to London? One random poster on the internet does not necessarily mean it's true. No offence Sisterspinster, but are you sure it was him?
True, can't go all out yet. Also true wtf is he going to London for?
we will steal what we cannot buy when all is stole from us
sisterspinster wrote: ↑04 Jul 2022, 11:48
The show was good, the shameful behaviour yesterday of Andrew Eldritch on the plane back to London was not. I was excited to see him got on the same flight as me but not for long. He was removed from the plane on landing, partly for causing trouble, and partly I guess for his own safety, after he drunkenly abused and threatened a female passenger and insulted a group of men much bigger than him. Embarrassing and I wont see them anymore
You may not be aware just where you are, but you ought to be aware that such falsehoods as what you write here are right under the eyes of the band and the man himself.
You better think twice before you act up like that on Heartland. Somebody from 2000 Hamburg 4 might get very angry at you. You don´t want that. Believe me.
"These are my principles! And if you don't like the just says so, I have others, too!"
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sisterspinster wrote: ↑04 Jul 2022, 11:48
The show was good, the shameful behaviour yesterday of Andrew Eldritch on the plane back to London was not. I was excited to see him got on the same flight as me but not for long. He was removed from the plane on landing, partly for causing trouble, and partly I guess for his own safety, after he drunkenly abused and threatened a female passenger and insulted a group of men much bigger than him. Embarrassing and I wont see them anymore
You may not be aware just where you are, but you ought to be aware that such falsehoods as what you write here are right under the eyes of the band and the man himself.
You better think twice before you act up like that on Heartland. Somebody from 2000 Hamburg 4 might get very angry at you. You don´t want that. Believe me.
How do you know it‘s false?
I‘m pretty sad if it‘s true as well… But he wouldn’t be the first to make a nuisance of himself when drunk.
sisterspinster wrote: ↑04 Jul 2022, 11:48
The show was good, the shameful behaviour yesterday of Andrew Eldritch on the plane back to London was not. I was excited to see him got on the same flight as me but not for long. He was removed from the plane on landing, partly for causing trouble, and partly I guess for his own safety, after he drunkenly abused and threatened a female passenger and insulted a group of men much bigger than him. Embarrassing and I wont see them anymore
You may not be aware just where you are, but you ought to be aware that such falsehoods as what you write here are right under the eyes of the band and the man himself.
You better think twice before you act up like that on Heartland. Somebody from 2000 Hamburg 4 might get very angry at you. You don´t want that. Believe me.
How do you know it‘s false?
I‘m pretty sad if it‘s true as well… But he wouldn’t be the first to make a nuisance of himself when drunk.
Outrageous behaviour! Fancy insulting a group of men much bigger than yourself. I'm done with The Sisters, it's Motorhead and Metallica only for me from now on.
'What a heavy load Einstein must have had. Morons everywhere.'
Given the choice, obviously I'd prefer if Von wasn't an asshole, but let's face it, this isn't the first time he's been described as 'difficult'. If this is true - and again no offence, but it's just one person's account - then it's more embarrassing for him than anything else. He's an old geezer now. Drinking too much on an airplane and being a dick is kids stuff.
Again, it might be true, it might not be. Either way though, is it really that big a deal? I do require some basics in terms of behaviour from my favourite bands - I'd have difficulty listening to Gary Glitter or Michael Jackson for example now, knowing what we all now know - but being a dick with too much booze on board isn't really a reason to never go see someone again (as long as they aren't being dicks to you personally.)
If this is true, I'm more surprised than horrified. Mainly because he's not a kid anymore, and the others in the band seem genuinely nice when I've met them. It'd be a bit weird for people to spend 10 or 15 years working with someone who was a complete c**t. So if this did happen, it's more than likely it's a one-off, or a rare occurrence where he let himself down. But then, we don't know what's going on in his life.
(For all we know, someone close to him died, or he got bad news, or something awful happened and he went on a bender. As someone else said, he won't be the first or the last. And we don't know.)
Oh, and @sisterspinster, if you're wondering why people aren't immediately taking your word at this, there's a reason people like Von go out of their way to be discreet about where they live and their personal information. There are some odd people out there and more than a few 'larger than life' rock personalities have had unwell people latch on to them, create stories or even turn up on their doorstep. Not saying that's you, but one person's word on a band forum just isn't enough to establish truth.
(I once watched a frankly creepy video uploaded to YouTube of a group of Italian cure fans who tracked down where Robert Smith lived and arrived at his house with a camcorder sometime in the 1990s. He was incredibly kind to them, but you could see he was really freaked out. He drove them back to the station in his jeep, all the time politely and nicely asking 'so, how did you find out where I live?' My skin was crawling watching it. And that was just the ones who videoed their stalking and uploaded it to the internet. Can you imagine what else has happened that wasn't documented like that?)
Well Ben has just posted on FB, thanking everyone for making the festival memorable.
And he also posted a FB story video of him having a laugh at Gatwick ( presumably filmed by Davey).
So whatever did, or didn't, happen on the flight doesn't seem to have upset them or dampened their spirits
I have seen The Sisters at The Paradiso. I will die happy
With massive thanks to Ruffers for his company and help.
A girl is never too old to wear a Sisters tshirt!
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