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Watching Glastonbury coverage it occurs to me that with the obvious exception of goth adjacent The Cure I can't recall any goth acts appearing there over the years.
As quite a significant and long lasting part of alternative culture this seems strange.
Anytime got any thoughts or insights on this?
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Do New Model Army count? Pretty sure they played on the years I went, 1999 or 2002, more likely 99 but dunno, I didn't see them.
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The one time I went in 1992 there was a big goth act playing the Birmingham NEC at the same timeruffers wrote: ↑29 Jun 2024, 22:41 (I know,, we're not Goths)
Watching Glastonbury coverage it occurs to me that with the obvious exception of goth adjacent The Cure I can't recall any goth acts appearing there over the years.
As quite a significant and long lasting part of alternative culture this seems strange.
Anytime got any thoughts or insights on this?
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I believe NMA actually played (or will play) this year. All About Eve have played, do they count?Planet Dave wrote: ↑29 Jun 2024, 22:51 Do New Model Army count? Pretty sure they played on the years I went, 1999 or 2002, more likely 99 but dunno, I didn't see them.
"I've seen Andrew Eldritch in an ice hockey shirt onstage, and I've given him the benefit of the doubt"
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i saw folk rock band All About Eve there, guilt by association.
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Do The Creatures count?
If New Model Army count then Im saying The Levellers.Planet Dave wrote: ↑29 Jun 2024, 22:51 Do New Model Army count? Pretty sure they played on the years I went, 1999 or 2002, more likely 99 but dunno, I didn't see them.
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If you're having The Levellers than I'm having Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine who actually headlined the festival in 1992.GC wrote: ↑01 Jul 2024, 15:57If New Model Army count then Im saying The Levellers.Planet Dave wrote: ↑29 Jun 2024, 22:51 Do New Model Army count? Pretty sure they played on the years I went, 1999 or 2002, more likely 99 but dunno, I didn't see them.
"I've seen Andrew Eldritch in an ice hockey shirt onstage, and I've given him the benefit of the doubt"
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The Levellers did in 1993 I believe. Playing to the biggest crowd ever at Glasto.ribbons69 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2024, 00:19If you're having The Levellers than I'm having Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine who actually headlined the festival in 1992.GC wrote: ↑01 Jul 2024, 15:57If New Model Army count then Im saying The Levellers.Planet Dave wrote: ↑29 Jun 2024, 22:51 Do New Model Army count? Pretty sure they played on the years I went, 1999 or 2002, more likely 99 but dunno, I didn't see them.
Then Avril Lavigne counts as well (song with Marilyn Manson)paint it black wrote: ↑30 Jun 2024, 14:43 i saw folk rock band All About Eve there, guilt by association.
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Garbage headlined the second stage in 2002. Only Happy When It Rains? Definitely goth. Great gig ![We are not worthy! :notworthy:](./images/smilies/icon_notworthy.gif)
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But what makes a goth band? What IS goth? ![It wasn't me... :innocent:](./images/smilies/icon_whistlehalo.gif)
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Looking at this thread anybody who has not performed at Glastonbury.
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I believe that the most important criteria is that you vehemently deny that you are in fact Goth.
"I've seen Andrew Eldritch in an ice hockey shirt onstage, and I've given him the benefit of the doubt"
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The Damned I suppose are goth adjacent. Although they had to pull out in 2022 when the 'rona got them
Not music for sure. I'll always maintain there is no such thing as goth music. Rather music that goths gravitate towards
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Good shout! I've often observed when asked that if a DJ plays it in a goth club, and goths dance to it, and own copies of it, then it's a duck. Sorry, I mean goth.
Not sure where that would leave us if I asked Carly Rae Jepsen, Bob Marley or the Beach Boys that question!I believe that the most important criteria is that you vehemently deny that you are in fact Goth.
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exactly this. Second third & following generations of 'goth' music has become more & more formulaic and sort of countrer-defined the bands that came first, but it was the scene that adopted its bands not the music that created the scene. The Sisters became a goth band because we all loved/love them. same for Fat Bob, Siouxsie and the Joyless Divs. i wont include Borehaus becasue they werent even a band they were wank...i mean art.timsinister wrote: ↑05 Jul 2024, 08:43Good shout! I've often observed when asked that if a DJ plays it in a goth club, and goths dance to it, and own copies of it, then it's a duck. Sorry, I mean goth.
Not sure where that would leave us if I asked Carly Rae Jepsen, Bob Marley or the Beach Boys that question!I believe that the most important criteria is that you vehemently deny that you are in fact Goth.
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