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Posted: 12 May 2011, 17:58
by dtsom
number 1309 now has a proud owner :P :P

Posted: 12 May 2011, 18:56
by panzerfaust
anyone can recommend the cheapest way to buy it from central europe?

Posted: 12 May 2011, 19:31
by dtsom
panzerfaust wrote:anyone can recommend the cheapest way to buy it from central europe?
I bought it here:

http://cgi.ebay.es/SISTERS-OF-MERCY-Fir ... 2a10778b59


listening right now whit my sennheiser hd-25 and the sound in my opinion is superb!!!!

Posted: 12 May 2011, 19:48
by radiojamaica
dtsom wrote:number 1309 now has a proud owner :P :P
and number 1303 reached my turntable today 8)

Posted: 12 May 2011, 21:43
by bananacamel
1320 is sitting on my record deck, must get it serviced...

F&L&A is easily my most owned LP
Cassette
LP - Original
LP - Japanese import
LP - Gatefold Sleeve
CD - Original 1988
CD - Remastered in 1992
CD - Remastered & Expanded
LP - Mobile fidelity

I guess I should look out for the picture disc and get a full set... unless there are more?

Posted: 12 May 2011, 21:51
by Being645
And do you prefer any of these?

Posted: 12 May 2011, 23:21
by Rise891
Oh there is always more! Just vinyl


First and Last and Always-Mexican Picture Disc
First and Last and Always-#209 Color Vinyl Re-issue Re-issued in 6 Different
First and Last and Always-#196 Color Vinyl Re-issue colors and numbered
First and Last and Always-#190 Color Vinyl Re-issue editions of 500
First and Last and Always-#325 Color Vinyl Re-issue White Sleeve’s
First and Last and Always-#214 Color Vinyl Re-issue
First and Last and Always-#316 Color Vinyl Re-issue
First and Last and Always-#508 Dark Blue Vinyl Re-issue Black Sleeve
First and Last and Always-Brazil Issue
First and Last and Always-US Promo with extra Stickers
First and Last and Always-UK Black Label Promo Signed by Wayne & Craig
First and Last and Always-Japan with Extras Signed by Wayne and Craig
First and Last and Always-Canadian Print
First and Last and Always-Canadian Print with wrong Marian Time (3:40)
First and Last and Always-UK White Label With 1& 2 on Label only
First and Last and Always-UK press no bar code
First and Last and Always-Italian Promo
First and Last and Always-German with Gatefold
First and Last and Always-German Press
First and Last and Always-Digital Re-master with Sticker

Posted: 13 May 2011, 22:17
by bananacamel
Rise891 wrote:Oh there is always more! Just vinyl


First and Last and Always-Mexican Picture Disc
First and Last and Always-#209 Color Vinyl Re-issue Re-issued in 6 Different
First and Last and Always-#196 Color Vinyl Re-issue colors and numbered
First and Last and Always-#190 Color Vinyl Re-issue editions of 500
First and Last and Always-#325 Color Vinyl Re-issue White Sleeve’s
First and Last and Always-#214 Color Vinyl Re-issue
First and Last and Always-#316 Color Vinyl Re-issue
First and Last and Always-#508 Dark Blue Vinyl Re-issue Black Sleeve
First and Last and Always-Brazil Issue
First and Last and Always-US Promo with extra Stickers
First and Last and Always-UK Black Label Promo Signed by Wayne & Craig
First and Last and Always-Japan with Extras Signed by Wayne and Craig
First and Last and Always-Canadian Print
First and Last and Always-Canadian Print with wrong Marian Time (3:40)
First and Last and Always-UK White Label With 1& 2 on Label only
First and Last and Always-UK press no bar code
First and Last and Always-Italian Promo
First and Last and Always-German with Gatefold
First and Last and Always-German Press
First and Last and Always-Digital Re-master with Sticker
OMG - I feel humbled :notworthy:

You do realise though, that your F&L&A collection borders on being obsessive compulsive :lol:

Posted: 13 May 2011, 22:20
by bananacamel
Being645 wrote:And do you prefer any of these?
Good question, I'm pretty sure the Japanese mixes are the same as the original CD (Please correct if I'm mistaken)

But ultimately, sad as this is, I like the most recent release, just great to be able to extend the listening pleasure :D

Posted: 13 May 2011, 23:40
by Being645
bananacamel wrote:
Being645 wrote:And do you prefer any of these?
Good question, I'm pretty sure the Japanese mixes are the same as the original CD (Please correct if I'm mistaken)
As far as I know, that's how it is. But I'm surely not an expert. I've always preferred my original 1985 vinyl ...
the Japan mixes (as on that Sisters Albums CD Compilation from last year), uhm ... no, not what I've been used to ... :lol: ...

Though now, this mofi vinyl, Japanese mixes or not, it sounds wonderful to me ... ;D ...

If that should be based on the same source, they've really done a good job.

Posted: 14 May 2011, 06:38
by bananacamel
Wow, high praise. I'm going to get my record deck serviced & have a listen. You've inspired me.

Posted: 14 May 2011, 06:48
by Being645
Oh, others are not so convinced. I'm curious to hear how you like it ... :D ...

Posted: 14 May 2011, 11:10
by robertzombie
It sounds great, but it sounds Japanese :P

Posted: 14 May 2011, 11:23
by Nork1
robertzombie wrote:It sounds great, but it sounds Japanese :P
Brack Pranet? First and Rast and Always?

Posted: 14 May 2011, 11:50
by lachert
is it possible that it was just transfered from cd? no? :?
sorry for my ignorance.

Posted: 14 May 2011, 13:19
by robertzombie
It sounds a bit better than the CD version, so I *hope* they've used a master, but seeing as it was licensed to Mofi by Elektra (see back of record) I reckon it uses the Japanese mixes. This is further confirmed when listening to the title track and A Rock And A Hard Place, both utilise the Japanese mixes.

See my comparison here: (Original -> Remaster -> Mofi) - CLICK

N.B. Recorded at 96kbps so the sound quality is a bit naff, just there to give you an idea of the differences.

Posted: 14 May 2011, 21:53
by Rise891
You do realise though, that your F&L&A collection borders on being obsessive compulsive :lol:[/quote]

I crossed that border many years ago :lol:

Posted: 15 May 2011, 10:54
by Nork1
I feel so inadequate - I've only got FALAA 7 times :(

Posted: 16 May 2011, 03:12
by jimhb
robertzombie wrote:It sounds a bit better than the CD version, so I *hope* they've used a master, but seeing as it was licensed to Mofi by Elektra (see back of record) I reckon it uses the Japanese mixes. This is further confirmed when listening to the title track and A Rock And A Hard Place, both utilise the Japanese mixes.

See my comparison here: (Original -> Remaster -> Mofi) - CLICK

N.B. Recorded at 96kbps so the sound quality is a bit naff, just there to give you an idea of the differences.
wow.. I don't understand the lack of definition in FLAA while the other track on the same lp has so much definition...

Posted: 16 May 2011, 22:17
by the-happening
Rise891 wrote:Oh there is always more! Just vinyl


First and Last and Always-Mexican Picture Disc
First and Last and Always-#209 Color Vinyl Re-issue Re-issued in 6 Different
First and Last and Always-#196 Color Vinyl Re-issue colors and numbered
First and Last and Always-#190 Color Vinyl Re-issue editions of 500
First and Last and Always-#325 Color Vinyl Re-issue White Sleeve’s
First and Last and Always-#214 Color Vinyl Re-issue
First and Last and Always-#316 Color Vinyl Re-issue
First and Last and Always-#508 Dark Blue Vinyl Re-issue Black Sleeve
First and Last and Always-Brazil Issue
First and Last and Always-US Promo with extra Stickers
First and Last and Always-UK Black Label Promo Signed by Wayne & Craig
First and Last and Always-Japan with Extras Signed by Wayne and Craig
First and Last and Always-Canadian Print
First and Last and Always-Canadian Print with wrong Marian Time (3:40)
First and Last and Always-UK White Label With 1& 2 on Label only
First and Last and Always-UK press no bar code
First and Last and Always-Italian Promo
First and Last and Always-German with Gatefold
First and Last and Always-German Press
First and Last and Always-Digital Re-master with Sticker
Quick count of First & Last & Always vinyl is at 36 copies without any of those colour vinyl reissues or the BPI Presentation award.

Posted: 16 May 2011, 22:24
by taylor
Quick count of First & Last & Always vinyl is at 36 copies

:notworthy:

we need a list :D

Posted: 17 May 2011, 00:38
by Nork1
taylor wrote:Quick count of First & Last & Always vinyl is at 36 copies

:notworthy:

we need a list :D
37.

First and Last and Always-UK press gatefold with no sticker and Kronenburg stain obscuring Wayne's face.

Posted: 17 May 2011, 19:20
by DocSommer
lachert wrote:is it possible that it was just transfered from cd? no? :?
sorry for my ignorance.
I don't think so since the mofi release sounds more accurate compared to the cd version plus I got those images from the master reels mofi used for the transfer - posted these some month ago in this topic IIRC or just look here:

http://portal.poison-door.net/gallery/i ... &sd=a&st=0

I can't imagine they would fake that for no reason,

Posted: 31 May 2011, 14:17
by Bertran De Born
hello there,
Got my copy number 1000!!!
The sound is to me, absolutely amazing. At some moments, i felt i was hearing a new version, as some tracks became audible in this MoFi release. The original mix had this very weird bass frequency which drowned the wole mix (to me).
This version is not the japanese, but more like the original FALAA (apart from title track). I'm thinking of the start of "a rock and a hard place" which is so peculiar on the jap version. The Mofi one is the "traditional" one.
As for the title track, sounds kinda weird indeed as the job sounds less obvious. Maybe the master tapes got damaged and prevented a restauration....

Posted: 31 May 2011, 14:45
by robertzombie
Im pretty sure the version of Hard Place on this is the Japanese one. See my comparison post earlier.